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	<title>Comments on: Economic Collapse 2011 / 2012</title>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, prepare spiritually. When the economy collapses you WILL need the comfort of faith. Your mental and spiritual health will guide all your steps. Many will crumble mentally as we will have never known this level of crisis. Learn what coping skills work best for you. Some may pray or walk or relax with a book, etc., find a way to calm yourself on a day to day basis. Practice these skills now to make them your tools in crisis.
Find like minded friends and work together with them preparing. 
Of course we all know a year minimum of food, including NON-hybrid seeds, a PLAN for a permanant water supply. Guns, too much ammo, silver and gold. These are the four G&#039;s, God, groceries, guns and gold. 
It is extremely important that you learn survival skills in the event that we lose electricity. Learn how to cook without an oven, how to protect yourself, how to treat yourself if a hospital is not an option, etc.. Spend 5 hours a week watching &quot;how to&quot; youtubes, write down what you have learned and keep a notebook of it. 
Question everything. Do not trust this fascist govt..
Yes she&#039;s a beautiful anchorwoman but she&#039;s probably lying to you! That includes Fox News. Television is one of your worst enemies, they can make good appear evil and evil appear good. Turn it off. 
Remember the govt. is the enemy of your savings. 
For more info. on a complete guide to preparing go to, www.spiritwars.net 
PRAY FOR CHRIST&#039;S PROTECTION. 
Mary Kay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, prepare spiritually. When the economy collapses you WILL need the comfort of faith. Your mental and spiritual health will guide all your steps. Many will crumble mentally as we will have never known this level of crisis. Learn what coping skills work best for you. Some may pray or walk or relax with a book, etc., find a way to calm yourself on a day to day basis. Practice these skills now to make them your tools in crisis.<br />
Find like minded friends and work together with them preparing.<br />
Of course we all know a year minimum of food, including NON-hybrid seeds, a PLAN for a permanant water supply. Guns, too much ammo, silver and gold. These are the four G&#8217;s, God, groceries, guns and gold.<br />
It is extremely important that you learn survival skills in the event that we lose electricity. Learn how to cook without an oven, how to protect yourself, how to treat yourself if a hospital is not an option, etc.. Spend 5 hours a week watching &#8220;how to&#8221; youtubes, write down what you have learned and keep a notebook of it.<br />
Question everything. Do not trust this fascist govt..<br />
Yes she&#8217;s a beautiful anchorwoman but she&#8217;s probably lying to you! That includes Fox News. Television is one of your worst enemies, they can make good appear evil and evil appear good. Turn it off.<br />
Remember the govt. is the enemy of your savings.<br />
For more info. on a complete guide to preparing go to, <a href="http://www.spiritwars.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.spiritwars.net</a><br />
PRAY FOR CHRIST&#8217;S PROTECTION.<br />
Mary Kay</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Eric, your invitation means a lot :)</description>
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		<title>By: eric slezak</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric slezak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you , i wish i could discuss this with my family. I&#039;VE been canning meats hell i even put pinto beans and rice in ball jars then put in a pressure cooker. it will stay good forever. buy bullits and i mean a shit load, people will be trying steel what ever you have . not just you&#039;r food. Iwish you were on my team. if you get to texas you can be . I have land  with a water supply. and for god sakes don&#039;t buy monsanto seeds, they will not reproduce ever againe if you did&#039;nt already no this please reaserch these assholes. via con dios my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you , i wish i could discuss this with my family. I&#8217;VE been canning meats hell i even put pinto beans and rice in ball jars then put in a pressure cooker. it will stay good forever. buy bullits and i mean a shit load, people will be trying steel what ever you have . not just you&#8217;r food. Iwish you were on my team. if you get to texas you can be . I have land  with a water supply. and for god sakes don&#8217;t buy monsanto seeds, they will not reproduce ever againe if you did&#8217;nt already no this please reaserch these assholes. via con dios my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-44643</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick add; Get guns in the same cal. My suggestions would be 5.56, .22, 9mm, 12 guage. These are cheap and very easy to find.

Oh and tarps and Duct tape</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick add; Get guns in the same cal. My suggestions would be 5.56, .22, 9mm, 12 guage. These are cheap and very easy to find.</p>
<p>Oh and tarps and Duct tape</p>
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		<title>By: Jamey</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-41645</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a vet and a father of a new one year old child and a 8yr running faithful husband and I for some time have been tossing around the idea of stocking up food but my limited middle class budget doesent allow much room for extras like being in the negatives each month. I must say I am one of those people who was young and nieve and fell for the yeah you can aford this house on your budget. well I didnt see the loss in income when I lost a job and the wife got pregnant and she lost her job at the local relastate agency due to the housing crash. But all and all we are still making it ok. Thanks to the lord. Ok so thats my situation so enough about me I was wondering if any one had any info on the basics of starting to prepare like a grocery list on a supply list. I was taught at a very young age how to hunt and fish and sow and care for a garden thanks to my loving grandfather who @ 87 still does these thing on a dayly basis. I have a garden every spring and the early part of fall. and I try to hunt and fish as much as I have time for but with a little baby around it is not so easy. I live in a town in florida that is surrounded by militay and people and not much land to hunt on. but my thing is I have only the food in my pantry and the silver in my safe and the ammo in my drawer and not much of any of it I might add. I do have some land In the state of arkansa but I hardly ever get to see it or let alone think about building safe house or refuge for my family there. I live to far away for one thing and I know that sounds like an excuse but Its really hard for me to set a side time and money to go any where other than work and to the store. I was wondering if there was an economical collapse how would living in the middle of a bunch of military beneft or hurt me if I where to leave to go to my property to live out my days so to speak how hard is it going to be to barter for food and gas to get to my destination and once there I have no home or electricity or plumming so I would have to start from scratch and build a home the old fashioned way. which may not be such a bad thing I could stand to loss a few pounds. But do you know how long it takes a log to cure so you can build a house like a year. thats a long time to live in a car or a tent if the tent last that long. I have springs on that property but I have the faintes clue on how to pipe that water to a tank for storage or use. My main concern is taking care of my child and making sure they get to live a life with out being in fear of there fellow man but I am afraid that there life will be a lot harder than I can imagine. I hope for our countrys sake that we come out of this mess a stronger more cristian based contry. Like our Fathers so long ago intended it to be. some where we lost our way and I am afraid we will have to reap what we have sown as a super power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a vet and a father of a new one year old child and a 8yr running faithful husband and I for some time have been tossing around the idea of stocking up food but my limited middle class budget doesent allow much room for extras like being in the negatives each month. I must say I am one of those people who was young and nieve and fell for the yeah you can aford this house on your budget. well I didnt see the loss in income when I lost a job and the wife got pregnant and she lost her job at the local relastate agency due to the housing crash. But all and all we are still making it ok. Thanks to the lord. Ok so thats my situation so enough about me I was wondering if any one had any info on the basics of starting to prepare like a grocery list on a supply list. I was taught at a very young age how to hunt and fish and sow and care for a garden thanks to my loving grandfather who @ 87 still does these thing on a dayly basis. I have a garden every spring and the early part of fall. and I try to hunt and fish as much as I have time for but with a little baby around it is not so easy. I live in a town in florida that is surrounded by militay and people and not much land to hunt on. but my thing is I have only the food in my pantry and the silver in my safe and the ammo in my drawer and not much of any of it I might add. I do have some land In the state of arkansa but I hardly ever get to see it or let alone think about building safe house or refuge for my family there. I live to far away for one thing and I know that sounds like an excuse but Its really hard for me to set a side time and money to go any where other than work and to the store. I was wondering if there was an economical collapse how would living in the middle of a bunch of military beneft or hurt me if I where to leave to go to my property to live out my days so to speak how hard is it going to be to barter for food and gas to get to my destination and once there I have no home or electricity or plumming so I would have to start from scratch and build a home the old fashioned way. which may not be such a bad thing I could stand to loss a few pounds. But do you know how long it takes a log to cure so you can build a house like a year. thats a long time to live in a car or a tent if the tent last that long. I have springs on that property but I have the faintes clue on how to pipe that water to a tank for storage or use. My main concern is taking care of my child and making sure they get to live a life with out being in fear of there fellow man but I am afraid that there life will be a lot harder than I can imagine. I hope for our countrys sake that we come out of this mess a stronger more cristian based contry. Like our Fathers so long ago intended it to be. some where we lost our way and I am afraid we will have to reap what we have sown as a super power.</p>
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		<title>By: tom baxter</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-40341</link>
		<dc:creator>tom baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of this network with your neighbour ideology is noble and good but it is suicide in practice.  No one I ever showed the facts to, showed my PM&#039;s and preps to ever got it.  They were drones, worker bees in the system and all I achieved was to expose myself and the fact that I prepared to dozens of people who are not prepared.
For 2 years now I have been undoing my mistake and telling these same good folk how I have been eating through my food stores (because they are going bad) and selling my PM&#039;s before the bubble pops.  I tell them I&#039;m buying mining shares but only if they ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of this network with your neighbour ideology is noble and good but it is suicide in practice.  No one I ever showed the facts to, showed my PM&#8217;s and preps to ever got it.  They were drones, worker bees in the system and all I achieved was to expose myself and the fact that I prepared to dozens of people who are not prepared.<br />
For 2 years now I have been undoing my mistake and telling these same good folk how I have been eating through my food stores (because they are going bad) and selling my PM&#8217;s before the bubble pops.  I tell them I&#8217;m buying mining shares but only if they ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Lavaman</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-37533</link>
		<dc:creator>Lavaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 04:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I currently live with my parents because im underageand I am aware of this disaster but I can&#039;t convince them to stock up on food water OR silver. Plz help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I currently live with my parents because im underageand I am aware of this disaster but I can&#8217;t convince them to stock up on food water OR silver. Plz help</p>
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		<title>By: El magnifico</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-37371</link>
		<dc:creator>El magnifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been through natural disasters (Loma Prieta Earthquake) and have seen how thin the veneer of civilization really is.  Total disregard for others is the first to surface.  It&#039;s like yelling &quot;fire&quot; in a movie theatre.  Panic ensues.  Those that are unprepared (emotionally as well as personally) will be the first to succumb.  
It took me 2 hours to get home after the earthquake.  It was pitch black, sirens wailing, smell of gas everywhere, fires in the distance, people driving madly, people running into stores and looting... When I rounded the corner of my neighborhood, I saw my house with lights on and 4 cars parked in front.  My friends had all mad a beeline for my house.  My roomate had fired up the generator and everyone was drinking Jack Daniels at my bar.  It pays to have a friend who is a avid outdoorsman, camper, hunter, fisherman and a 2 weeks supply of food and booze, guns, a generator, surgical kit, and medical supplies. A neigbor sustained a deep cut that required stitiches, another neighbor, a nurse was  attending her.  I offered my medkit and she was stiched up and drinking a beer at the same time.  Help friends and neighbors, it will payoff in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been through natural disasters (Loma Prieta Earthquake) and have seen how thin the veneer of civilization really is.  Total disregard for others is the first to surface.  It&#8217;s like yelling &#8220;fire&#8221; in a movie theatre.  Panic ensues.  Those that are unprepared (emotionally as well as personally) will be the first to succumb.<br />
It took me 2 hours to get home after the earthquake.  It was pitch black, sirens wailing, smell of gas everywhere, fires in the distance, people driving madly, people running into stores and looting&#8230; When I rounded the corner of my neighborhood, I saw my house with lights on and 4 cars parked in front.  My friends had all mad a beeline for my house.  My roomate had fired up the generator and everyone was drinking Jack Daniels at my bar.  It pays to have a friend who is a avid outdoorsman, camper, hunter, fisherman and a 2 weeks supply of food and booze, guns, a generator, surgical kit, and medical supplies. A neigbor sustained a deep cut that required stitiches, another neighbor, a nurse was  attending her.  I offered my medkit and she was stiched up and drinking a beer at the same time.  Help friends and neighbors, it will payoff in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 16:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prepping means primarily financially prepping yourself. The odds riots in the streets or societal breakdown are nil. 

That said, moderate physical gold positions are good. Keep cash for stocks when priced right. Standard blue chips with decent dividends are not going anywhere. 

Otherwise, tap your 401K for cash before Congress loots it. Get some land. Learn how to garden, process meat. Ideally find a rural community within commuting distance to an urban location for work. Make connections in the community, participate. Rural towns really do help each other, but they have to know you. 

A .22LR, a shotgun, 10 acres, and a handpump well are all you really need to feed yourself. If you think you need firearms for self defense then you picked the wrong place to like and are sunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prepping means primarily financially prepping yourself. The odds riots in the streets or societal breakdown are nil. </p>
<p>That said, moderate physical gold positions are good. Keep cash for stocks when priced right. Standard blue chips with decent dividends are not going anywhere. </p>
<p>Otherwise, tap your 401K for cash before Congress loots it. Get some land. Learn how to garden, process meat. Ideally find a rural community within commuting distance to an urban location for work. Make connections in the community, participate. Rural towns really do help each other, but they have to know you. </p>
<p>A .22LR, a shotgun, 10 acres, and a handpump well are all you really need to feed yourself. If you think you need firearms for self defense then you picked the wrong place to like and are sunk.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-37212</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 04:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 1 year old, I&#039;ve downloaded survival manuals and got a small stock of food and water but only for a few days.  I live in an apartment, but I&#039;m not impoverished, my husband is in the Navy, I&#039;m assuming that if this happens I won&#039;t have him because he will either be called on to go to war or to control the masses, I haven&#039;t been trained in anything, I don&#039;t know how to hunt nor do I own a gun, but I&#039;m thinking of getting one now.  My husband would think I was crazy if I started spending all of our money on camping and hunting equipment and I don&#039;t know how to explain all of this to him so that he could understand, he thinks everything will be fine.  I&#039;m a strong person mentally and can be innovative when I need to be, but I&#039;m not sure that I would be able to take care of a baby in the woods, what should someone like me do when this happens, I want to protect my child at all costs.  How am I supposed to do this? Or are we just doomed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 1 year old, I&#8217;ve downloaded survival manuals and got a small stock of food and water but only for a few days.  I live in an apartment, but I&#8217;m not impoverished, my husband is in the Navy, I&#8217;m assuming that if this happens I won&#8217;t have him because he will either be called on to go to war or to control the masses, I haven&#8217;t been trained in anything, I don&#8217;t know how to hunt nor do I own a gun, but I&#8217;m thinking of getting one now.  My husband would think I was crazy if I started spending all of our money on camping and hunting equipment and I don&#8217;t know how to explain all of this to him so that he could understand, he thinks everything will be fine.  I&#8217;m a strong person mentally and can be innovative when I need to be, but I&#8217;m not sure that I would be able to take care of a baby in the woods, what should someone like me do when this happens, I want to protect my child at all costs.  How am I supposed to do this? Or are we just doomed?</p>
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		<title>By: southern patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-36951</link>
		<dc:creator>southern patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for some great idea&#039;s on how to survive what ever is coming down the road. For me and my family we&#039;re doing what we can to protect our family and doing our best &quot;to be Prepared&quot; I can not vision a time when we will just give up and not try to protect our family and help who we can. We have a medically involved family member and find that bugging out is going to be really hard. Yes if the water starts to rise we will have to get out of dodge. I think that people will go back to a system of bartering, so old junk coins can be exchanged for goods and service. anyway the best to everyone and thanks for letting me have my say. God bless America. Southern Patriot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for some great idea&#8217;s on how to survive what ever is coming down the road. For me and my family we&#8217;re doing what we can to protect our family and doing our best &#8220;to be Prepared&#8221; I can not vision a time when we will just give up and not try to protect our family and help who we can. We have a medically involved family member and find that bugging out is going to be really hard. Yes if the water starts to rise we will have to get out of dodge. I think that people will go back to a system of bartering, so old junk coins can be exchanged for goods and service. anyway the best to everyone and thanks for letting me have my say. God bless America. Southern Patriot</p>
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		<title>By: young prepper</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-36935</link>
		<dc:creator>young prepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I luv these comments!!!!! i just hope i can collect the supplies needed before the collapse thanx all loved smittys ideas to.havin the trailer and everything</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I luv these comments!!!!! i just hope i can collect the supplies needed before the collapse thanx all loved smittys ideas to.havin the trailer and everything</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-36533</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 21:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may also be a time to good toward one who is in need. Sharing with others who need food or water or other necessities. If someone where to approach your house looking for these things would you whip out your semi-auto and start shooting or would you listen and provide for them what they need? Put yourself in the shoes of those who may approach you for assistance, rather than hoarding for yourselves. It is charity that will change the face of the society and defeat evil and it starts with you. I am not judging people intentions but it deserves some thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may also be a time to good toward one who is in need. Sharing with others who need food or water or other necessities. If someone where to approach your house looking for these things would you whip out your semi-auto and start shooting or would you listen and provide for them what they need? Put yourself in the shoes of those who may approach you for assistance, rather than hoarding for yourselves. It is charity that will change the face of the society and defeat evil and it starts with you. I am not judging people intentions but it deserves some thought.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-36531</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also: 
Whosoever shall seek to save his life, shall lose it: and whosoever shall lose it, shall preserve it. Luke 17:33 Harsh reality but the truth never the less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also:<br />
Whosoever shall seek to save his life, shall lose it: and whosoever shall lose it, shall preserve it. Luke 17:33 Harsh reality but the truth never the less.</p>
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		<title>By: char</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-31987</link>
		<dc:creator>char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in Canada and am not convinced that a world wide economic collapse is inevitable, but things are not looking good as I write this. The community I live in has a long history of helping each other in hard times. I worry less about defending myself than surviving a natural disaster or having food/water be inaccessible. I have started stocking up canned food and bottled water little by little. I am also buying camping supplies and have convinced my husband to start camping as a recreational activity with the ulterior motive of learning to live with less and surviving a disaster situation. We also joined a farming co-op . If things went really bad, a few chickens and a goat could help a lot. Also hunting and fishing. Being   a  vegetarian will be huge help. I agree with whoever said all we really need is food, water and shelter ( I am done propagating lol). That said, I have slowly built up a very tiny solar system that will power my cell phone and laptop. As for  the people who had were disabled or had  were in charge of people with disabilities, you would be surprised what you are capable of if you need to be.  Do what you can to prepare and get  yourself and your loved ones as healthy as you can. Learn about natural remedies. I have arthritis but have recently lost 22 pounds and counting. I truly believe that is a great way to prepare all the way around if you need to lose weight. I am an optimist and a survivor , I believe there are huge changes coming both economically and physical changes in the earth but ultimately the world will be a better healthier place for all of us to live. Our lives will be radically different but we will be much happier and so will the planet. I think we are going back to more local living but with global communications.  I am not looking forward to the shake up but am looking forward for the end result. A more simple way of life that has us &quot;living lightly on the earth&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in Canada and am not convinced that a world wide economic collapse is inevitable, but things are not looking good as I write this. The community I live in has a long history of helping each other in hard times. I worry less about defending myself than surviving a natural disaster or having food/water be inaccessible. I have started stocking up canned food and bottled water little by little. I am also buying camping supplies and have convinced my husband to start camping as a recreational activity with the ulterior motive of learning to live with less and surviving a disaster situation. We also joined a farming co-op . If things went really bad, a few chickens and a goat could help a lot. Also hunting and fishing. Being   a  vegetarian will be huge help. I agree with whoever said all we really need is food, water and shelter ( I am done propagating lol). That said, I have slowly built up a very tiny solar system that will power my cell phone and laptop. As for  the people who had were disabled or had  were in charge of people with disabilities, you would be surprised what you are capable of if you need to be.  Do what you can to prepare and get  yourself and your loved ones as healthy as you can. Learn about natural remedies. I have arthritis but have recently lost 22 pounds and counting. I truly believe that is a great way to prepare all the way around if you need to lose weight. I am an optimist and a survivor , I believe there are huge changes coming both economically and physical changes in the earth but ultimately the world will be a better healthier place for all of us to live. Our lives will be radically different but we will be much happier and so will the planet. I think we are going back to more local living but with global communications.  I am not looking forward to the shake up but am looking forward for the end result. A more simple way of life that has us &#8220;living lightly on the earth&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-31942</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My great grand mother in the 20&#039;s (in Austria) needed more money, sold her house, next day hyper inflation hit and she could only buy 1 loaf of bread for the value of the house.

suggestion, keep your house. hopefully you have locked in fixed interest rate. this will survive hyper inflation. may you will be able to pay off your house during that time.

...just a thought.

and regarding safety and riots... military took over power and controlled major check points in Austria at that time. live rural, all good and fine, but how realistic is that for you? you need people around you. being alone is not always best.

the most important thing was not mentioned here a lot, pray and humble yourself before GOD. He is the only one that can prevail and help us to live free and in safety. And I believe in His miracles and his support.

And in my opinion, it is also my suggestion to you, whatever happens, it is not going to be a bad thing. There are always new opportunities arising every time one thing or period ends or closes down. this is the fun part in life, we can remember always Tom Hanks in &quot;forest gump&quot;, life is like a box of chocolate.

I thank my God for all up&#039;s and down&#039;s. They are a reminder to pray to Him always.

God&#039;s Speed.

thomas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My great grand mother in the 20&#8242;s (in Austria) needed more money, sold her house, next day hyper inflation hit and she could only buy 1 loaf of bread for the value of the house.</p>
<p>suggestion, keep your house. hopefully you have locked in fixed interest rate. this will survive hyper inflation. may you will be able to pay off your house during that time.</p>
<p>&#8230;just a thought.</p>
<p>and regarding safety and riots&#8230; military took over power and controlled major check points in Austria at that time. live rural, all good and fine, but how realistic is that for you? you need people around you. being alone is not always best.</p>
<p>the most important thing was not mentioned here a lot, pray and humble yourself before GOD. He is the only one that can prevail and help us to live free and in safety. And I believe in His miracles and his support.</p>
<p>And in my opinion, it is also my suggestion to you, whatever happens, it is not going to be a bad thing. There are always new opportunities arising every time one thing or period ends or closes down. this is the fun part in life, we can remember always Tom Hanks in &#8220;forest gump&#8221;, life is like a box of chocolate.</p>
<p>I thank my God for all up&#8217;s and down&#8217;s. They are a reminder to pray to Him always.</p>
<p>God&#8217;s Speed.</p>
<p>thomas</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-31882</link>
		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 19:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When saying that precius metals is the way to go in a total economic collapse it is implied that the collapse is not total. Precious metals is also a sort of currency and there are no rule that it cannot loose its value or most of it just because it never happend. In a total collapse, life sustaining neccesities is what will have value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When saying that precius metals is the way to go in a total economic collapse it is implied that the collapse is not total. Precious metals is also a sort of currency and there are no rule that it cannot loose its value or most of it just because it never happend. In a total collapse, life sustaining neccesities is what will have value.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sanders</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-31649</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been following this whole financial problem in the United States in relation to Bible prophecy. I read several articles that point to the US not being involved in the End Time events. One article refers to the upcoming events that will happen in the next year: http://howlongolord.com/?p=36

Out of all the prophecies in the Bible, all have been precise and happened exactly as foretold.

From Forbes Magazine:

Muslim Prophecy

forbes magazine link

“Is Barack Obama the ‘promised warrior’ coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?” asked columnist Amir Taheri in Forbes. “The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government website published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.

“According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet’s cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a ‘tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West.’ Commanding ‘the strongest army on earth,’ the new ruler in the West will carry ‘a clear sign’ from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: ‘Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.’”

The Khomeinist establishment in Iran sees Obama’s rise as another sign of the West’s decline and the triumph of Islam and the return of the Mahdi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been following this whole financial problem in the United States in relation to Bible prophecy. I read several articles that point to the US not being involved in the End Time events. One article refers to the upcoming events that will happen in the next year: <a href="http://howlongolord.com/?p=36" rel="nofollow">http://howlongolord.com/?p=36</a></p>
<p>Out of all the prophecies in the Bible, all have been precise and happened exactly as foretold.</p>
<p>From Forbes Magazine:</p>
<p>Muslim Prophecy</p>
<p>forbes magazine link</p>
<p>“Is Barack Obama the ‘promised warrior’ coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?” asked columnist Amir Taheri in Forbes. “The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government website published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam.</p>
<p>“According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet’s cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a ‘tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West.’ Commanding ‘the strongest army on earth,’ the new ruler in the West will carry ‘a clear sign’ from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: ‘Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.’”</p>
<p>The Khomeinist establishment in Iran sees Obama’s rise as another sign of the West’s decline and the triumph of Islam and the return of the Mahdi.</p>
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		<title>By: plenty o. teepee</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-30220</link>
		<dc:creator>plenty o. teepee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U.S. seems to slide out of economic collapse time and time again, will this time be different? Always finds another economic scam to play out, maybe it will find another yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U.S. seems to slide out of economic collapse time and time again, will this time be different? Always finds another economic scam to play out, maybe it will find another yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-29786</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have alot of survival supplies but I do have some.  Mostly I need more food.  My question is why do I read so much on these sites about getting out of debt?  When the economic collapse happens it will most likely be followed by social collapse and then a reset after a period of time.  With people just trying to survive why would anyone care about debt?  I don&#039;t think the banks or the government is going to come looking for people who are not able to make payments on their debt when the whole country is imploding.  Am I missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have alot of survival supplies but I do have some.  Mostly I need more food.  My question is why do I read so much on these sites about getting out of debt?  When the economic collapse happens it will most likely be followed by social collapse and then a reset after a period of time.  With people just trying to survive why would anyone care about debt?  I don&#8217;t think the banks or the government is going to come looking for people who are not able to make payments on their debt when the whole country is imploding.  Am I missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Perigreno</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-29465</link>
		<dc:creator>Perigreno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyon_Guest,

I couldn&#039;t agree with your statements more. Your viewpoints are flawless.</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with your statements more. Your viewpoints are flawless.</p>
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		<title>By: Scintillate</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-29406</link>
		<dc:creator>Scintillate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 05:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean I&#039;m suprised no one actually bothers to question why this is happening, and continues to happen, and if we&#039;re all so intelligent and can see the patterns so clearly, I wonder why none of us have even one single idea to prevent it happening yet again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean I&#8217;m suprised no one actually bothers to question why this is happening, and continues to happen, and if we&#8217;re all so intelligent and can see the patterns so clearly, I wonder why none of us have even one single idea to prevent it happening yet again?</p>
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		<title>By: Scintillate</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-29405</link>
		<dc:creator>Scintillate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 05:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally the BIG question is this, is survival that important? Do we deserve it? 

If mankind has no purpose, do we really deserve to be here?

THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally the BIG question is this, is survival that important? Do we deserve it? </p>
<p>If mankind has no purpose, do we really deserve to be here?</p>
<p>THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL</p>
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		<title>By: anyon_guest</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-28698</link>
		<dc:creator>anyon_guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 15:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its actually as simple as it is hard.  It changes for everyone.

Try to get away from big cities.  Well that is easier said then done.  Do what you can.  Rent some little barn or something.  Just somewhere you can be out of the city.  You already see social collapse and decay.  Don&#039;t be around IF it really goes bad.  If its just hyper-inflation and economic with viens of order and people are not starving to death then the riots and civil unrest will be around, but not lethal to everyone.  However having a garden or something outside the city give you a place to go, and a way to get some food.  

Stock up on what you can. I tell people just go to the store like always.  Sometimes buy 2 of things you need.  Soup on sale?  An extra bag of TP or Deo.  Your still going to use all this stuff.  If prices sky rocket, then you saved some money.  They certainly won&#039;t be going down dramatically over the next 50 years.

Store some water.  Even the CDC, and Fema recommend you store food and water.

Then you have to get more specific on what you think the problem is going to be economiclly.  Complete collapse, hyper inflation, ect.
Not as an investment, but as a hedge I would suggest you read up on getting some money out of the US dollar.  Do your own homework.  This can be gold/silver.  It can be Foriegn exchange (watch those premiums).  It can be foriegn CD&#039;s, bonds, and so on.   FL, I bet has a ton of banks, and you should easily find 5 that will sell you something forign.  Like an Aussie CD or market account.

The hard part is this issue, if set off, will be global.  Do your homework.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its actually as simple as it is hard.  It changes for everyone.</p>
<p>Try to get away from big cities.  Well that is easier said then done.  Do what you can.  Rent some little barn or something.  Just somewhere you can be out of the city.  You already see social collapse and decay.  Don&#8217;t be around IF it really goes bad.  If its just hyper-inflation and economic with viens of order and people are not starving to death then the riots and civil unrest will be around, but not lethal to everyone.  However having a garden or something outside the city give you a place to go, and a way to get some food.  </p>
<p>Stock up on what you can. I tell people just go to the store like always.  Sometimes buy 2 of things you need.  Soup on sale?  An extra bag of TP or Deo.  Your still going to use all this stuff.  If prices sky rocket, then you saved some money.  They certainly won&#8217;t be going down dramatically over the next 50 years.</p>
<p>Store some water.  Even the CDC, and Fema recommend you store food and water.</p>
<p>Then you have to get more specific on what you think the problem is going to be economiclly.  Complete collapse, hyper inflation, ect.<br />
Not as an investment, but as a hedge I would suggest you read up on getting some money out of the US dollar.  Do your own homework.  This can be gold/silver.  It can be Foriegn exchange (watch those premiums).  It can be foriegn CD&#8217;s, bonds, and so on.   FL, I bet has a ton of banks, and you should easily find 5 that will sell you something forign.  Like an Aussie CD or market account.</p>
<p>The hard part is this issue, if set off, will be global.  Do your homework.</p>
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		<title>By: pk</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-28650</link>
		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i need ideas .i live i fla . i got food,water and other supplys buryed all around orlando .i do not have a strong  shelter to hold up in and no like mined people in my area to group up with .no idea is to far fetch. i live in an apartment now and just can not get a house or land like i want</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i need ideas .i live i fla . i got food,water and other supplys buryed all around orlando .i do not have a strong  shelter to hold up in and no like mined people in my area to group up with .no idea is to far fetch. i live in an apartment now and just can not get a house or land like i want</p>
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		<title>By: anyon_guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>anyon_guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Interesting comments.
I believe JC is right to a degree, but missing the whole entire point and big picture, and most everything in-between.
Issac, I can understand why you feel this way, but it’s not all correct either. 

What you have here is a collection of people, quite a minority of the mass of public, who see a problem.   Some see it different, and for different reasons.
For some it may be the unsustainable debit.  Others the debt ceiling,  The Fed, inflation, loss of freedoms, and whatever.  If you don’t see any indicators that trouble of sorts is around the corner, you are far behind the curve, indoctrinated by propaganda, and in the most trouble.
Because this list is growing, and each of their circumstances are growing critical you have those awake and paying attention now looking for help and ideas and likeminded folks for ideas and info.
Everyone here, while agreeing on some points and not others, came looking for some ideas or research.  Be ideas what to stock up on, help painting the picture of what such a crisis would look like, or others to join up with.
The point is they are all reading, researching, and learning.  But why?  It is simple.  In THIS country we have had relative stability for so long (lifetime perspective) that for most what such a crisis would look like is hard to imagine.  You cannot plan or prepare for something you don’t understand.  I personally think it is great that people are trying to learn, and even if on the wrong track, they are leaps and bounds ahead of those who think life will always be manicures and perms and hot showers.
So for people like issac who are trying, and those who just want to whine that there are people out there who think it’s all about to collapse let me say this.  If you want to know the future, read the History.  Boy I never thought I would say that.  In fact I was the kid who said I will never use this in school.
Issac.   Stores will pop up all over the place that will barter or exchange.  Near me there are already 6.  I got a gene store, chainsaws and service type that has a sign in the door saying they will buy your gold or silver.  You won’t be shaving anything, you will trade it in for the spot price of that metal and use the cash for your purchase, or just use the metal directly.  States are already legalizing other tenders and stores are already offering to take your gold and silver instead of cash. 
For those who don’t have money to prepare and wonder what they can do.  It’s a harder battle, no one denies you that.  However know that even people with money struggle as well as it can be overwhelming.   The point is simply, do what you can, when you can.  You would be surprised how quickly it adds up.   I know you read over that statement with a super sense of yeah right.  It really does and you really need to understand this.  Do what you can, don’t break the bank, don’t get in a position where you can’t make rent because you bought a years supply of food.  Do what you can, and soon over time you will begin to feel better.
I have to comment on JC’s post.  You are leaving out all the relevant facts.  World food inventories were at dangerous levels before the floods, tornado’s and volcano’s this year.  That is according to the World health organization.  Where do you imagine it is now, that they chose to break the levies in the south to flood farms to save lots of houses for example.  Enough food for everyone?  You should do some more homework.  Where is everyone going to get this food?   Off the back of a truck of FEMA or the red cross?  Yeah that might look doable when its just a tornado in Joplin, but the whole nation?  Yeah you should do some more homework.  
People, ALL PEOPLE, have 3 basic Needs.  1. Food and water. 2. Shelter.  3. Propagation.  When these are threatened even the best, most honorable, and god fearing man will kill.  We can all strive for a euphoric world with no problems, but to dismiss this fact could prove fatal.  When people are starving, sociological laws are the first to go out the door.  When they are nearing death, moral laws will go too.  Humans have a distinct ability to rationalize anything, and understanding that this includes killing you so they can live is key.
At the end of the day, What it all boils down to, can be said in very simple terms.  Regardless of the trigger, regardless of the event, regardless of the outcome.  The more dependent on others you are, the more hosed you will be.  If you can’t provide food and water and shelter for yourself you really need to re-evaluate your direction.   At the same token, you cannot survive alone.  While years can go by with you living alone, sooner or later you will be outnumbered or unequipped.  So strive for independence, but accept local likeminded neighbors who have something you need, and hope you have something they need as well.  We can still be charitable to kind folks, but your whole world of who you trust, and when will be tested.  
Look to past nations who dealt with social collapse, inflation, political coo’s, or sever hardships.  Talk to people who survived these events, how they did it, and how it changed them and how they look at life.  I have talked to people who survived the economic collapse of the USSR, others from inflation in Brazil, and the holocaust and on and on.  If you really want ideas what/how to prepare for incase, you cannot imagine the things no-one is thinking of that people who lived through these events found to be of value.

Oh.  And plant a garden.  Cheap, easy, and of no downside.  If your poor and this is all you can do, sleep well for you are LEAPS ahead of everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Interesting comments.<br />
I believe JC is right to a degree, but missing the whole entire point and big picture, and most everything in-between.<br />
Issac, I can understand why you feel this way, but it’s not all correct either. </p>
<p>What you have here is a collection of people, quite a minority of the mass of public, who see a problem.   Some see it different, and for different reasons.<br />
For some it may be the unsustainable debit.  Others the debt ceiling,  The Fed, inflation, loss of freedoms, and whatever.  If you don’t see any indicators that trouble of sorts is around the corner, you are far behind the curve, indoctrinated by propaganda, and in the most trouble.<br />
Because this list is growing, and each of their circumstances are growing critical you have those awake and paying attention now looking for help and ideas and likeminded folks for ideas and info.<br />
Everyone here, while agreeing on some points and not others, came looking for some ideas or research.  Be ideas what to stock up on, help painting the picture of what such a crisis would look like, or others to join up with.<br />
The point is they are all reading, researching, and learning.  But why?  It is simple.  In THIS country we have had relative stability for so long (lifetime perspective) that for most what such a crisis would look like is hard to imagine.  You cannot plan or prepare for something you don’t understand.  I personally think it is great that people are trying to learn, and even if on the wrong track, they are leaps and bounds ahead of those who think life will always be manicures and perms and hot showers.<br />
So for people like issac who are trying, and those who just want to whine that there are people out there who think it’s all about to collapse let me say this.  If you want to know the future, read the History.  Boy I never thought I would say that.  In fact I was the kid who said I will never use this in school.<br />
Issac.   Stores will pop up all over the place that will barter or exchange.  Near me there are already 6.  I got a gene store, chainsaws and service type that has a sign in the door saying they will buy your gold or silver.  You won’t be shaving anything, you will trade it in for the spot price of that metal and use the cash for your purchase, or just use the metal directly.  States are already legalizing other tenders and stores are already offering to take your gold and silver instead of cash.<br />
For those who don’t have money to prepare and wonder what they can do.  It’s a harder battle, no one denies you that.  However know that even people with money struggle as well as it can be overwhelming.   The point is simply, do what you can, when you can.  You would be surprised how quickly it adds up.   I know you read over that statement with a super sense of yeah right.  It really does and you really need to understand this.  Do what you can, don’t break the bank, don’t get in a position where you can’t make rent because you bought a years supply of food.  Do what you can, and soon over time you will begin to feel better.<br />
I have to comment on JC’s post.  You are leaving out all the relevant facts.  World food inventories were at dangerous levels before the floods, tornado’s and volcano’s this year.  That is according to the World health organization.  Where do you imagine it is now, that they chose to break the levies in the south to flood farms to save lots of houses for example.  Enough food for everyone?  You should do some more homework.  Where is everyone going to get this food?   Off the back of a truck of FEMA or the red cross?  Yeah that might look doable when its just a tornado in Joplin, but the whole nation?  Yeah you should do some more homework.<br />
People, ALL PEOPLE, have 3 basic Needs.  1. Food and water. 2. Shelter.  3. Propagation.  When these are threatened even the best, most honorable, and god fearing man will kill.  We can all strive for a euphoric world with no problems, but to dismiss this fact could prove fatal.  When people are starving, sociological laws are the first to go out the door.  When they are nearing death, moral laws will go too.  Humans have a distinct ability to rationalize anything, and understanding that this includes killing you so they can live is key.<br />
At the end of the day, What it all boils down to, can be said in very simple terms.  Regardless of the trigger, regardless of the event, regardless of the outcome.  The more dependent on others you are, the more hosed you will be.  If you can’t provide food and water and shelter for yourself you really need to re-evaluate your direction.   At the same token, you cannot survive alone.  While years can go by with you living alone, sooner or later you will be outnumbered or unequipped.  So strive for independence, but accept local likeminded neighbors who have something you need, and hope you have something they need as well.  We can still be charitable to kind folks, but your whole world of who you trust, and when will be tested.<br />
Look to past nations who dealt with social collapse, inflation, political coo’s, or sever hardships.  Talk to people who survived these events, how they did it, and how it changed them and how they look at life.  I have talked to people who survived the economic collapse of the USSR, others from inflation in Brazil, and the holocaust and on and on.  If you really want ideas what/how to prepare for incase, you cannot imagine the things no-one is thinking of that people who lived through these events found to be of value.</p>
<p>Oh.  And plant a garden.  Cheap, easy, and of no downside.  If your poor and this is all you can do, sleep well for you are LEAPS ahead of everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: M.T. Pockets</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-28435</link>
		<dc:creator>M.T. Pockets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all for your efforts. Anyone who doesn&#039;t think this economic turmoil won&#039;t happen, needs a history lesson. Government doesn&#039;t create wealth, Government TRANFERS wealth. Always to its corrupt allies. Understanding fiat economies and government&#039;s insatiable quest for power and control is imperitive. The first steps are ALWAYS GUN CONTROL. I will make it very simple to understand:

All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can be used to command the party. 

- Mao Tse Tung -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for your efforts. Anyone who doesn&#8217;t think this economic turmoil won&#8217;t happen, needs a history lesson. Government doesn&#8217;t create wealth, Government TRANFERS wealth. Always to its corrupt allies. Understanding fiat economies and government&#8217;s insatiable quest for power and control is imperitive. The first steps are ALWAYS GUN CONTROL. I will make it very simple to understand:</p>
<p>All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can be used to command the party. </p>
<p>- Mao Tse Tung -</p>
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		<title>By: pk</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-28255</link>
		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jc you are right in a lot of what u say. but what u are missing is if and when this happen there will be no law and order .so there will be no peace .untill the bad ones r thin out .the good ones will have to defend and feed ourselvies.we are a nation of want .all the places u named have live this way for years.we have not .fear will take over .and the wosrt of man will show up for dinner. hope for the best plan for the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jc you are right in a lot of what u say. but what u are missing is if and when this happen there will be no law and order .so there will be no peace .untill the bad ones r thin out .the good ones will have to defend and feed ourselvies.we are a nation of want .all the places u named have live this way for years.we have not .fear will take over .and the wosrt of man will show up for dinner. hope for the best plan for the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: pk</title>
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		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for those in proverty  try this 1 go to food banks and churches .they give away a lot of can goods and state food .its not the best but its free .2 find some one with food stamps .give them $20 cash they buy you $40 in food .not legal but all of my food supplys have been gotten these two ways .by any means nessary. hope the best plan for the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for those in proverty  try this 1 go to food banks and churches .they give away a lot of can goods and state food .its not the best but its free .2 find some one with food stamps .give them $20 cash they buy you $40 in food .not legal but all of my food supplys have been gotten these two ways .by any means nessary. hope the best plan for the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! What are you people on? You guys have been watching too many movies! So let me get this straight: all of a sudden, the U.S. is a scene out of the Book of Eli or some crappy zombie movie, right? LOL

In many (if not most) countries on Earth (yes, that same planet where there are around 200 other countries besides the U.S....) people have actually lived on that same food (rice, beans, wheat...) that you so dramatically stock for survival, for many many centuries! Some of those countries are closer than you think: Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean and South America all have grains like rice, beans and corn tortillas as their basic diet.  And if you look at Africa of Asia, more of the same or even less...millions of people!
If or when the U.S. collapses, you guys are going to have to face the fact that you&#039;ll no longer be the world&#039;s no. 1 economic and military super power, which doesn&#039;t mean that people are automatically going to start running around killing each other for food! For God sake&#039;s, there are some 6 billion people that eat everyday without having to kill anyone! I believe, for now (the world&#039;s food supply, overpopulation and starvation in some undeveloped countries is another issue), it&#039;s safe to say there&#039;s enough food for everyone.  Being no. 2 or no. 100 only means you probably won&#039;t be able to dine or take out every other day, buy an iPod, iPad, iPhone, iMac, 100-inch flat screen, home theater, TIVO, PS3, Xbox, 2 SUV&#039;s, 2-door fridge, microwave and conventional ovens, washing machine, dryer (OMG!!! you are going to have to dry your clothes out in the sun!! NOOOOOO!!!!)...and every other piece of junk they sell you on TV with money you didn&#039;t actually have in the first place....like up until a few years ago, most americans did. Most of the WORLD (even industrialized first-world countries) gets through their lives without any of this!
I pity the fact that you spoiled brats really just can&#039;t wait for the lamest excuse to take out your personal arsenal and blow each other&#039;s head off with your $500 stock of precious little green-tipped bullets......for beans!
Just get off the high horse you&#039;ve been riding for nearly a century and deal with it! It&#039;s the circle of life: there have been political, economical and military super powers through out human history, and I believe there are still some arabs, greeks, egyptians, italians, germans, spanish, british and french in some parts or the world...or did they suddenly become extinct once their empire fell?  
After the ride you guys have had, you still don&#039;t get it.  It&#039;s not &quot;survival&quot;, &quot;evacuation&quot; or &quot;organized communities with 24-hour watch posts&quot;...it&#039;s especially NOW when you guys should be thinking of helping each other out, instead of shooting the first guy asking for help. Really...it&#039;s just sad.
I wish every one of you guys good luck. I personally have many american friends and know for fact they don&#039;t agree with the views posted here (thank God!). I just hope they don&#039;t run into one of your little &quot;communities&quot; when all this goes down.
Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! What are you people on? You guys have been watching too many movies! So let me get this straight: all of a sudden, the U.S. is a scene out of the Book of Eli or some crappy zombie movie, right? LOL</p>
<p>In many (if not most) countries on Earth (yes, that same planet where there are around 200 other countries besides the U.S&#8230;.) people have actually lived on that same food (rice, beans, wheat&#8230;) that you so dramatically stock for survival, for many many centuries! Some of those countries are closer than you think: Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean and South America all have grains like rice, beans and corn tortillas as their basic diet.  And if you look at Africa of Asia, more of the same or even less&#8230;millions of people!<br />
If or when the U.S. collapses, you guys are going to have to face the fact that you&#8217;ll no longer be the world&#8217;s no. 1 economic and military super power, which doesn&#8217;t mean that people are automatically going to start running around killing each other for food! For God sake&#8217;s, there are some 6 billion people that eat everyday without having to kill anyone! I believe, for now (the world&#8217;s food supply, overpopulation and starvation in some undeveloped countries is another issue), it&#8217;s safe to say there&#8217;s enough food for everyone.  Being no. 2 or no. 100 only means you probably won&#8217;t be able to dine or take out every other day, buy an iPod, iPad, iPhone, iMac, 100-inch flat screen, home theater, TIVO, PS3, Xbox, 2 SUV&#8217;s, 2-door fridge, microwave and conventional ovens, washing machine, dryer (OMG!!! you are going to have to dry your clothes out in the sun!! NOOOOOO!!!!)&#8230;and every other piece of junk they sell you on TV with money you didn&#8217;t actually have in the first place&#8230;.like up until a few years ago, most americans did. Most of the WORLD (even industrialized first-world countries) gets through their lives without any of this!<br />
I pity the fact that you spoiled brats really just can&#8217;t wait for the lamest excuse to take out your personal arsenal and blow each other&#8217;s head off with your $500 stock of precious little green-tipped bullets&#8230;&#8230;for beans!<br />
Just get off the high horse you&#8217;ve been riding for nearly a century and deal with it! It&#8217;s the circle of life: there have been political, economical and military super powers through out human history, and I believe there are still some arabs, greeks, egyptians, italians, germans, spanish, british and french in some parts or the world&#8230;or did they suddenly become extinct once their empire fell?<br />
After the ride you guys have had, you still don&#8217;t get it.  It&#8217;s not &#8220;survival&#8221;, &#8220;evacuation&#8221; or &#8220;organized communities with 24-hour watch posts&#8221;&#8230;it&#8217;s especially NOW when you guys should be thinking of helping each other out, instead of shooting the first guy asking for help. Really&#8230;it&#8217;s just sad.<br />
I wish every one of you guys good luck. I personally have many american friends and know for fact they don&#8217;t agree with the views posted here (thank God!). I just hope they don&#8217;t run into one of your little &#8220;communities&#8221; when all this goes down.<br />
Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-26688</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hello again friends. The time has come for everything to fall into place. March 15 2011 is the day the dollar will die along with our country as well. A pole shift of 40 degrees is said to occur as well. I believe that this may indeed happen. In the event you readers believe me please bug out now. I myself am leaving the city very soon. Get away from the new Madrid fault and at least 300 miles from the coastline. Any questions, issues, or comments please contact me. (304)-731-7106. Good luck to you all.&quot;

Today is 6/13/11...looks like the above failed to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hello again friends. The time has come for everything to fall into place. March 15 2011 is the day the dollar will die along with our country as well. A pole shift of 40 degrees is said to occur as well. I believe that this may indeed happen. In the event you readers believe me please bug out now. I myself am leaving the city very soon. Get away from the new Madrid fault and at least 300 miles from the coastline. Any questions, issues, or comments please contact me. (304)-731-7106. Good luck to you all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Today is 6/13/11&#8230;looks like the above failed to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are in poverty, get a better job. Stop making excuses and work, then work some more. Guess how people in third world countries survive- they work for the meager scrapes of food they get. Quit living off the efforts of someone else- contribute.

Why are you in poverty? You are not willing to sacrifice to win. You are a bum. You are disabled. You are mentally challenged, elderly, lazy, stupid, addicted to drugs- the worst and most devastatingly harmful drug is self-pity. 

Get over the excuses and get off the couch. Do something with your life.

Wealthy or poor, if you want to survive, get off your butt and do something- anything. A resourceful person could be dropped off in the jungle and survive. This is hardly a jungle. The lazy, will not survive. Excuses will not feed you. Whining will not save you. Selfishness will only ruin your life.

If you think you are in poverty because you don&#039;t have as many iPods as the Jone&#039;s, or a ten thousand dollar car, or any number of things that would be completely worthless in a world of less, go back to the tv induced coma you live for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are in poverty, get a better job. Stop making excuses and work, then work some more. Guess how people in third world countries survive- they work for the meager scrapes of food they get. Quit living off the efforts of someone else- contribute.</p>
<p>Why are you in poverty? You are not willing to sacrifice to win. You are a bum. You are disabled. You are mentally challenged, elderly, lazy, stupid, addicted to drugs- the worst and most devastatingly harmful drug is self-pity. </p>
<p>Get over the excuses and get off the couch. Do something with your life.</p>
<p>Wealthy or poor, if you want to survive, get off your butt and do something- anything. A resourceful person could be dropped off in the jungle and survive. This is hardly a jungle. The lazy, will not survive. Excuses will not feed you. Whining will not save you. Selfishness will only ruin your life.</p>
<p>If you think you are in poverty because you don&#8217;t have as many iPods as the Jone&#8217;s, or a ten thousand dollar car, or any number of things that would be completely worthless in a world of less, go back to the tv induced coma you live for.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac Kingsland</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-25906</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac Kingsland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, this is all great stuff, however, after the first 3 months, all the grasshoppers starving out there will see you don&#039;t look as bad as they do and target you and yours for &quot;exploitation&quot;, you good little ant, you.  And guess who the biggest grasshopper will be?  Your wonderful city, county, state and federal governments.
You will be labeled a hoarder.  At best you will have everything confiscated, including your weapons, and at worst, you&#039;ll be put up against a wall and shot.  I figure the latter is most likely.
  Then, your idea about gold and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;.  Well if the collapse is as big as you/we figure, why do you feel those items will have any value at all?  It&#039;s all in the head.  Plus, say I need a couple of bushels of potatoes?  Can you make change for an ounce of gold which will supposedly be worth $5XXXX?  Maybe you think you can deal with shavings off your little gold piece?  Better put jeweler&#039;s scales up there amongst your cans of spagettios.
Will there anyplace left to deal with your articles of exchange?  Banks?  Credit Unions?  Jewelry stores?
Oh, lets all get together and determine what will be used for money.  Dollars?  Got a wheelbarrow?  Use them to light fires?  
You&#039;ve listed some fairly important things but in total collapse, it all boils down to survival of the fittest and that will mean joining up with the meanest SOB&#039;s around, determining loyalties, etc.  I&#039;m talking PRISON mentality here.  Want to see what life will be like?  Go to your local penitentiary, then eliminate the guards, except the guards will be the biggest gang within the walls.
Not to mention the INEVITABLE war that will happen when the other REALLY bigshots, decide to &quot;bring order&quot; to America&#039;s chaos.  Nope, it&#039;s not going to be fun.  Heck, they&#039;ll probably even take &quot;THE BACHELOR&quot; off the air............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, this is all great stuff, however, after the first 3 months, all the grasshoppers starving out there will see you don&#8217;t look as bad as they do and target you and yours for &#8220;exploitation&#8221;, you good little ant, you.  And guess who the biggest grasshopper will be?  Your wonderful city, county, state and federal governments.<br />
You will be labeled a hoarder.  At best you will have everything confiscated, including your weapons, and at worst, you&#8217;ll be put up against a wall and shot.  I figure the latter is most likely.<br />
  Then, your idea about gold and <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>.  Well if the collapse is as big as you/we figure, why do you feel those items will have any value at all?  It&#8217;s all in the head.  Plus, say I need a couple of bushels of potatoes?  Can you make change for an ounce of gold which will supposedly be worth $5XXXX?  Maybe you think you can deal with shavings off your little gold piece?  Better put jeweler&#8217;s scales up there amongst your cans of spagettios.<br />
Will there anyplace left to deal with your articles of exchange?  Banks?  Credit Unions?  Jewelry stores?<br />
Oh, lets all get together and determine what will be used for money.  Dollars?  Got a wheelbarrow?  Use them to light fires?<br />
You&#8217;ve listed some fairly important things but in total collapse, it all boils down to survival of the fittest and that will mean joining up with the meanest SOB&#8217;s around, determining loyalties, etc.  I&#8217;m talking PRISON mentality here.  Want to see what life will be like?  Go to your local penitentiary, then eliminate the guards, except the guards will be the biggest gang within the walls.<br />
Not to mention the INEVITABLE war that will happen when the other REALLY bigshots, decide to &#8220;bring order&#8221; to America&#8217;s chaos.  Nope, it&#8217;s not going to be fun.  Heck, they&#8217;ll probably even take &#8220;THE BACHELOR&#8221; off the air&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-24577</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 18:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF!? Its too late to take any of your advice...where can i get money for all this shit without a job? Gold and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;? i got no chance of ever getting any. So, the only solution i have, and i think its a good one, is to join one of the thousands of already established communities all over the states. Theyve already set everything up, and are looking for contributers (labour and security etc)...

im afraid alot of people are already in my position, its too late for them to save any money to buy any of the stuff on your list....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF!? Its too late to take any of your advice&#8230;where can i get money for all this shit without a job? Gold and <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>? i got no chance of ever getting any. So, the only solution i have, and i think its a good one, is to join one of the thousands of already established communities all over the states. Theyve already set everything up, and are looking for contributers (labour and security etc)&#8230;</p>
<p>im afraid alot of people are already in my position, its too late for them to save any money to buy any of the stuff on your list&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-24477</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 04:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about chickens. Chickens can self feed, can be fed scraps and can be used for both meat and eggs. I am building my flock. I think eggs will be a barterable commodity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about chickens. Chickens can self feed, can be fed scraps and can be used for both meat and eggs. I am building my flock. I think eggs will be a barterable commodity.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-23722</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 01:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.infowars.com
www.henrymakow.com
www.ohcanadamovie.com
www.canadafreepress.com
www.gigisup.net 
end the fed
vote for  RON PAUL

obey the constitution</description>
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<a href="http://www.henrymakow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.henrymakow.com</a><br />
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end the fed<br />
vote for  RON PAUL</p>
<p>obey the constitution</p>
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		<title>By: Reegan</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-22819</link>
		<dc:creator>Reegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 10:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see good information here by people leaving comments. I figured I would add what I have done to prepare to add ideas to the pot.

I live on a farm and operate a cattle company. I have breeding stock here at the house and a feedlot near the auction barn in town. I personally do not buy into the gold/&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;/metal craze. I plan to trade with beef/water/fuel/food, things people will need. I will plan to stay on my property and defend it rather than to take off on foot. I have too many supplies with more than enough people willing to defend it so they can have access to it.

I have a 10,000 gallon fuel tank that I use to fuel farm equipment with that will be good to have in crisis. Generators, solar backup, tools, satelite communication, phone, tv, internet. I have a private well and private septic and have converted all heating elements of my home to electric for use with the generator and solar power system. And if it would come down to it, I have a transfer tank in my truck with a reversible pump if I need to find a way to get more fuel.

Hunting and defense is something that concerns me. I have different types of weapons and a community that I shoot with that knows how to use them. Everything from pistols and shotguns, to semi-auto rifles, to bolt action sniper rifles and different cartridges for different needs. Medium rounds for hunting and general protection, and I have high power rounds for my sniper rifle that can disable a vehicle or penetrate armor if needed. I have friends that were in the marines. My brother and I were both army cav scouts. For ammo my brother and I both reload brass and when a gun is not necessary we have weapons that do not require ammo. Hatchets, knives, bows. You can throw hatchets and knives for food or whatever you need and close combat. I have taken bladed weapons training, classes are not hard to find. Training with these weapons will come in handy if you cannot reload ammo or eventually when supplies run out. With any system, rationing will be important, whether it is food, fuel, ammo, medical supplies.

Medical knowledge is also a concern for me. I would have to turn to my wife in this department. She is an anesthesiologist right now and works in an operating room 40 hours a week. You, by yourself, will probably not be able to survive. I know how to do alot of things, but if I needed stiched up, I would bleed to death without help. A strong community will be key in my opinion. The idea of walking into the woods with a backpack just doesn&#039;t appeal to me. It probably depends on the whole &quot;fight or flight&quot; theory of how different people think.

I always keep mechanical supplies in my shop too. Oil, lubricants, batteries, sprays, parts. I always have spare tires, brake pads, and grease for my truck, always.

Well that is alot of what I would plan on doing in the event of a collapse of our way of life. I left some things out, but people get the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see good information here by people leaving comments. I figured I would add what I have done to prepare to add ideas to the pot.</p>
<p>I live on a farm and operate a cattle company. I have breeding stock here at the house and a feedlot near the auction barn in town. I personally do not buy into the gold/<a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>/metal craze. I plan to trade with beef/water/fuel/food, things people will need. I will plan to stay on my property and defend it rather than to take off on foot. I have too many supplies with more than enough people willing to defend it so they can have access to it.</p>
<p>I have a 10,000 gallon fuel tank that I use to fuel farm equipment with that will be good to have in crisis. Generators, solar backup, tools, satelite communication, phone, tv, internet. I have a private well and private septic and have converted all heating elements of my home to electric for use with the generator and solar power system. And if it would come down to it, I have a transfer tank in my truck with a reversible pump if I need to find a way to get more fuel.</p>
<p>Hunting and defense is something that concerns me. I have different types of weapons and a community that I shoot with that knows how to use them. Everything from pistols and shotguns, to semi-auto rifles, to bolt action sniper rifles and different cartridges for different needs. Medium rounds for hunting and general protection, and I have high power rounds for my sniper rifle that can disable a vehicle or penetrate armor if needed. I have friends that were in the marines. My brother and I were both army cav scouts. For ammo my brother and I both reload brass and when a gun is not necessary we have weapons that do not require ammo. Hatchets, knives, bows. You can throw hatchets and knives for food or whatever you need and close combat. I have taken bladed weapons training, classes are not hard to find. Training with these weapons will come in handy if you cannot reload ammo or eventually when supplies run out. With any system, rationing will be important, whether it is food, fuel, ammo, medical supplies.</p>
<p>Medical knowledge is also a concern for me. I would have to turn to my wife in this department. She is an anesthesiologist right now and works in an operating room 40 hours a week. You, by yourself, will probably not be able to survive. I know how to do alot of things, but if I needed stiched up, I would bleed to death without help. A strong community will be key in my opinion. The idea of walking into the woods with a backpack just doesn&#8217;t appeal to me. It probably depends on the whole &#8220;fight or flight&#8221; theory of how different people think.</p>
<p>I always keep mechanical supplies in my shop too. Oil, lubricants, batteries, sprays, parts. I always have spare tires, brake pads, and grease for my truck, always.</p>
<p>Well that is alot of what I would plan on doing in the event of a collapse of our way of life. I left some things out, but people get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: anyon_guest</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-22395</link>
		<dc:creator>anyon_guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 19:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason is being ignorant.  Sorry but imho.  I said no other animal has a lower cost to keep per pound.  I never said it alone would sustain you.  Anyone can figure out that there is no one item that will completely balance you nutrionally.  If you can keep pigs, good for you.  They too will not provide EVERYTHING you need.  However I bet 90% of the people that posted and future readers cannot keep pigs, but can have 2 rabbits.  Also pigs may just eat scraps but they too will then lack some nutrion.  Think in terms of Economic collapse, how much scraps are you going to be able to spare for a pig?  Will it be enough to keep the pig alive?  And after you kill your pig and make your soap, then what?  Do some homework and better planning. Please.
Rabbits can be sustained for pennies to the dollar.  A garden and other stored food can easily streach your food supply and balance your nutritional needs, on a renewable basis.
Wonder if Jason thinks Gold is just a bubble, or government figures of unemployment and inflation are reality.

I don&#039;t understand why some people try to tell you what not to do.  Tell people what you do, help them with new ideas or leads on other areas to do homework on.  Like some have posted they cannot bug out.  Then you should focus on preparing for hunkering down.  What works for some, won&#039;t work for others.  If pigs work for you, and you have the means to raise them great.  I encourage you do go that route.  Then when your starving and I need a bath, i can bater with you for some soap.  If we all prepared the same way, we would be found wanting.

Why can&#039;t everyone help provide ideas and options or partnerships.  Instead everyone wants to dictate and act like they know best for all.  Is that not what got us in this mess?

Think for yourself, or be a slave.  There is no in between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason is being ignorant.  Sorry but imho.  I said no other animal has a lower cost to keep per pound.  I never said it alone would sustain you.  Anyone can figure out that there is no one item that will completely balance you nutrionally.  If you can keep pigs, good for you.  They too will not provide EVERYTHING you need.  However I bet 90% of the people that posted and future readers cannot keep pigs, but can have 2 rabbits.  Also pigs may just eat scraps but they too will then lack some nutrion.  Think in terms of Economic collapse, how much scraps are you going to be able to spare for a pig?  Will it be enough to keep the pig alive?  And after you kill your pig and make your soap, then what?  Do some homework and better planning. Please.<br />
Rabbits can be sustained for pennies to the dollar.  A garden and other stored food can easily streach your food supply and balance your nutritional needs, on a renewable basis.<br />
Wonder if Jason thinks Gold is just a bubble, or government figures of unemployment and inflation are reality.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why some people try to tell you what not to do.  Tell people what you do, help them with new ideas or leads on other areas to do homework on.  Like some have posted they cannot bug out.  Then you should focus on preparing for hunkering down.  What works for some, won&#8217;t work for others.  If pigs work for you, and you have the means to raise them great.  I encourage you do go that route.  Then when your starving and I need a bath, i can bater with you for some soap.  If we all prepared the same way, we would be found wanting.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t everyone help provide ideas and options or partnerships.  Instead everyone wants to dictate and act like they know best for all.  Is that not what got us in this mess?</p>
<p>Think for yourself, or be a slave.  There is no in between.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-22342</link>
		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 08:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel very fortunate that I have found this site. From what I have seen by just the comments is that there are a great many people that are more knowledgeable than myself on this subject. There are people that have been preparing for years for the very circumstances that I am only now becoming able to prepare for. If it is any merit, These are the people that I would like to ally myself with. If anyone on here would like to discuss matters of this nature please feel free to e mail me.   marvinwiita@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel very fortunate that I have found this site. From what I have seen by just the comments is that there are a great many people that are more knowledgeable than myself on this subject. There are people that have been preparing for years for the very circumstances that I am only now becoming able to prepare for. If it is any merit, These are the people that I would like to ally myself with. If anyone on here would like to discuss matters of this nature please feel free to e mail me.   <a href="mailto:marvinwiita@hotmail.com">marvinwiita@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-21254</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t listen to the person who said to buy meat rabbits.  If you do research on eating just rabbit, you will find that it will eventually kill you.  It doesn&#039;t have enough fat in it to sustain you.  A breeding pair of pigs are a much better choice.  They grow very fast, provide lard (for soap, cooking, light source, etc.).  Plus they don&#039;t require feed.  You can feed them scraps.  Here is an interesting fact the most nutritious wild meat source is raccoon.   It has plenty of fat on it plus many other nutrients.  Second of all your going to have to learn to eat almost all animal parts like the Indians did.  Most of the nutrients are in the entrails.  Watch animals they always eat the guts first.  There is a reason for that.  Survival experts it is great to go out in the woods and hide, but so will a lot of other people.  Those people will want to kill you to, and they will be armed.  I think the ones to survive will be the ones with a balance in all aspects of life.  

1.  Survival knowledge:  wild food recognition, utilization of anything you find, building shelter, finding water and purification, woods navigation, physical endurance (need to work out), mental health (most important), trapping, fishing, etc.

2.  Homesteading preparation:  salt, meat sources (chickens, pigs, goats, etc.), water sources, vegetable sources, firewood (ability to gather it), dog (protection), food preservation knowledge, guns, ability to repair clothing, know how to make leather, wild food recognition on your property, composting knowledge, garden tools, hand wood working tools, metal working tools (blacksmithing), basic medications, basic medications for animals, literature on homesteading skills, bible, alternative power sources, btw canning won&#039;t work unless you buy reusable lids (which are available), etc.

3.  Money - gold, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;, and some cash.  Need to be balanced.  None of these will have any value unless they can be proved that they are legitimate.  Will you take someone&#039;s word that it is real &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; or gold?  No because at this point no one will trust anyone.  There are many shams on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; and gold right now make sure it isn&#039;t layered or plated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t listen to the person who said to buy meat rabbits.  If you do research on eating just rabbit, you will find that it will eventually kill you.  It doesn&#8217;t have enough fat in it to sustain you.  A breeding pair of pigs are a much better choice.  They grow very fast, provide lard (for soap, cooking, light source, etc.).  Plus they don&#8217;t require feed.  You can feed them scraps.  Here is an interesting fact the most nutritious wild meat source is raccoon.   It has plenty of fat on it plus many other nutrients.  Second of all your going to have to learn to eat almost all animal parts like the Indians did.  Most of the nutrients are in the entrails.  Watch animals they always eat the guts first.  There is a reason for that.  Survival experts it is great to go out in the woods and hide, but so will a lot of other people.  Those people will want to kill you to, and they will be armed.  I think the ones to survive will be the ones with a balance in all aspects of life.  </p>
<p>1.  Survival knowledge:  wild food recognition, utilization of anything you find, building shelter, finding water and purification, woods navigation, physical endurance (need to work out), mental health (most important), trapping, fishing, etc.</p>
<p>2.  Homesteading preparation:  salt, meat sources (chickens, pigs, goats, etc.), water sources, vegetable sources, firewood (ability to gather it), dog (protection), food preservation knowledge, guns, ability to repair clothing, know how to make leather, wild food recognition on your property, composting knowledge, garden tools, hand wood working tools, metal working tools (blacksmithing), basic medications, basic medications for animals, literature on homesteading skills, bible, alternative power sources, btw canning won&#8217;t work unless you buy reusable lids (which are available), etc.</p>
<p>3.  Money &#8211; gold, <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>, and some cash.  Need to be balanced.  None of these will have any value unless they can be proved that they are legitimate.  Will you take someone&#8217;s word that it is real <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> or gold?  No because at this point no one will trust anyone.  There are many shams on <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> and gold right now make sure it isn&#8217;t layered or plated.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-21245</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What frustrates me is we got all this advice given to people on what to do but no one is giving advice to those in poverty or the disabled? I&#039;m currently in both of those categories. I don&#039;t own a home in fact I barely make ends meet in a 2 bedroom apartment. I live off a 900 dollar a month income..I can&#039;t afford to buy gold or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;...some months I can&#039;t even buy food and have to depend on others for that. I don&#039;t have land or a home? What are people in poverty to do? How can I protect myself  living in an apartment? Why is no one address us (people in poverty) or giving us advice on how we can prepare now in order to survive???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What frustrates me is we got all this advice given to people on what to do but no one is giving advice to those in poverty or the disabled? I&#8217;m currently in both of those categories. I don&#8217;t own a home in fact I barely make ends meet in a 2 bedroom apartment. I live off a 900 dollar a month income..I can&#8217;t afford to buy gold or <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>&#8230;some months I can&#8217;t even buy food and have to depend on others for that. I don&#8217;t have land or a home? What are people in poverty to do? How can I protect myself  living in an apartment? Why is no one address us (people in poverty) or giving us advice on how we can prepare now in order to survive???</p>
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		<title>By: Jäger</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-19279</link>
		<dc:creator>Jäger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christina Angelina.....too funny girl, you just goota love those peace-love type liberals, let me see, ya..... Hitler had great gun control, you can google that one love, and oh by the way, let me think back to my college history days.......&quot;You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.&quot; - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

@Smitty......Yep Army training is good, done that, survival training is also good, done quite a bit of that. Info, Intel very important. Also important to understand the Demography of where you live and have done an analysis of the area/state you live in. Further most people will only be 1 tank full of gas from where they live, so the idea of roving gangs will be mainly for the burning water and power empty cities, east of the Mississippi river, (good luck getting over that).  Also Smitty you state; 

&quot;Now if, at some time in the future, you stumble across a well organized community of people (provided their perimeter security personnel don’t shoot you out of fear)…&quot;

Yes this is what you want to emulate, and one of those &quot;very well&quot; organized communities would be mine here in Montana. We won&#039;t shoot you out of fear Smitty, we are too well trained for that. We will give you a chance to join after going through a very very rigorous interview. Then if we accept you, since you did not bring any ammo, weapons, food or essential gear except for want you could carry on your back, you will be expected to pull more then your fair share.....sorry. Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics.&quot; Omar Bradley. You can read my write up on Demography on my site. 

Sorry if I come across as a arrogant, but I&#039;ve been doing this for a very long time, and will help out anyone that asks for it. Give a person a fish, feed him for a meal, teach one to fish and feed one for life.

If you are just starting out getting prepped, my site may give you some helpful info.

Jäger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Christina Angelina&#8230;..too funny girl, you just goota love those peace-love type liberals, let me see, ya&#8230;.. Hitler had great gun control, you can google that one love, and oh by the way, let me think back to my college history days&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.&#8221; &#8211; Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto</p>
<p>@Smitty&#8230;&#8230;Yep Army training is good, done that, survival training is also good, done quite a bit of that. Info, Intel very important. Also important to understand the Demography of where you live and have done an analysis of the area/state you live in. Further most people will only be 1 tank full of gas from where they live, so the idea of roving gangs will be mainly for the burning water and power empty cities, east of the Mississippi river, (good luck getting over that).  Also Smitty you state; </p>
<p>&#8220;Now if, at some time in the future, you stumble across a well organized community of people (provided their perimeter security personnel don’t shoot you out of fear)…&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes this is what you want to emulate, and one of those &#8220;very well&#8221; organized communities would be mine here in Montana. We won&#8217;t shoot you out of fear Smitty, we are too well trained for that. We will give you a chance to join after going through a very very rigorous interview. Then if we accept you, since you did not bring any ammo, weapons, food or essential gear except for want you could carry on your back, you will be expected to pull more then your fair share&#8230;..sorry. Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics.&#8221; Omar Bradley. You can read my write up on Demography on my site. </p>
<p>Sorry if I come across as a arrogant, but I&#8217;ve been doing this for a very long time, and will help out anyone that asks for it. Give a person a fish, feed him for a meal, teach one to fish and feed one for life.</p>
<p>If you are just starting out getting prepped, my site may give you some helpful info.</p>
<p>Jäger<br />
<span class="cluv">Jäger´s last [type] ..<a class="fa645287f6 19279" rel="nofollow" href="http://everything-survival.blogspot.com/2010/10/general-info-for-planning-and-preparing.html">General Info for Planning and Preparing for SHTF Scenarios-Events</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: pk</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-19042</link>
		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 21:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with smitty. MY hold plan is base on being mobile.Ihave all of my supplies buryed in a 45mile radis in the orlando area .150 five gal.buckets buryed 3 miles aparted .afew ten miles .each one can restock my b.o.b. Not too mention what i find along the way.im just saying what works for me sorry for the misspelled words and typing errors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with smitty. MY hold plan is base on being mobile.Ihave all of my supplies buryed in a 45mile radis in the orlando area .150 five gal.buckets buryed 3 miles aparted .afew ten miles .each one can restock my b.o.b. Not too mention what i find along the way.im just saying what works for me sorry for the misspelled words and typing errors</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-18697</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, I&#039;m not an American I am Australian and I am really confused and need help. 
Over here, our economy is booming, our dollar is strengthening, and many people are becoming more wealthy. Yes there is inflation to a small extent and petrol prices are rising but nothing that would cause a civil war etc. 
I want to know if this would apply to Australia and if so how would Australia be affected?
Oh and by the way we were the only western country to not go into recession in the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) of 2008 to present. 
So should the same that Americans need to do apply to me here??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, I&#8217;m not an American I am Australian and I am really confused and need help.<br />
Over here, our economy is booming, our dollar is strengthening, and many people are becoming more wealthy. Yes there is inflation to a small extent and petrol prices are rising but nothing that would cause a civil war etc.<br />
I want to know if this would apply to Australia and if so how would Australia be affected?<br />
Oh and by the way we were the only western country to not go into recession in the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) of 2008 to present.<br />
So should the same that Americans need to do apply to me here??</p>
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		<title>By: anyon_guest</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-17664</link>
		<dc:creator>anyon_guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah,
    While Smitty has a point you have hit the nail on the head of why he is only accurate to a degree, all be it a large degree.
 
  Smitty is right, but does not go far enough.  You must have the ability to survive if/when you need to bug out.  You need to know techniques both military and past tribal in your area as applicable.
   However you must customize your survival plans around several facts.  1. That you may need to toss them all out the door and improvise.  2. That there is no one solution for all possibilities. 3. That it will vary from person to person- I.e. your parents situations.
   Planning ahead provides insight on how to come out on top, or closer thereto after everything implodes and rebuilding starts.  Those who depend on just survival skills will have to rely on them longer than those who had learned survival skills and invested for when the rebuilding begins.

Smitty is completely correct that you must know these skills.  However learning these skills whilst preparing for other options and avenues at the same time is very do-able when done in advance.  And the more you do and learn, the better off you will be.  

It is also about teaching.  Think about it, people do not even know how to make their own soap anymore.  Cure meat in a root cellar without your bed bath and beyond food dehydrator.  Canning?  Yeah I would guess this is about 2% of the world population.  How about medical tricks and wives tales from before the wonder of pharmacy drugs?   Simple skill sets are lost to time for the masses, at least for now.  Get a hold of this information, print it out and put it in a binder and memorize as much as you can.

Stock your food.  Stock your gold, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; or whatever.  Stash water.  AMMO.  Whatever you can do to better sleep at night and help others who still have their head up their butts and even laugh at you now.

The key is to be prepared, in any event.  If you can bunker down at home, or if you can survive on the road.  I see nothing wrong with doing both.  The day may come you have to walk away from your food and home, and if you have skills and plans in advance then your cooler head will prevail.

Setup backup plans.  If you have to head north or east, or whatever have a plan where you can go.  Put some of your supplies there as well.  The more places you have supplies stashed the better. (partnerships can help, but pose other issues as well)

The point is, there is nothing you should not do or consider in terms of preparing.  There is plenty you should not do in terms of survival.  See that difference.  Do not stay at your house in the heart of downtown city just because you cannot accept walking away from your hard work and supplies.  Do not underestimate how quickly the best of men will turn to killers to survive longer than you. It’s not human nature, its animal instinct and has happened before.

To wrap up, follow Smitty&#039;s advice.  Follow others advice.  Do it all to the extent you can.  If this goes down as an economic issue, people will suffer and many may die, but the majority of people will (as a whole) will survive.  There will also be those who will help you.  It’s not that everyone is out to get you in this downturn, people will group up.

Your best bet is to look at how it has happened elsewhere before.  What did people do to survive the great depression?  The Weimar Republic?  Russia?  There are tons of examples.

If you have family that can&#039;t go mobile, then you have to plan on this fact.  Perhaps you should be able to bug out sooner while cars that are on the road are not yet major targets?  It’s all about what is in your ability to do now.  If you can’t get a tent on the arctic shelf with a ton of supplies to stay warm and get to it before its all really bad then don&#039;t try.

Personally, I think everyone should have a wood stove, some food, a second location even less remote with similar supplies.  Bug out bags with supplies to help acquire what you will need on the road, and some likeminded people to setup a network of backup plans.  This is where timeshare setups seems better to me then the vacation spot of past years.

Also, while you might gag at the idea now, consider looking into meat bread rabbits.  No other animal produces more meat to a lower cost of care.  One breading pair can feed a family of 4 for a year.  (in the depression days these people were called Hoover hogs and armadillos in the south).  The meat is healthier than anything you are likely eating now.  2 years ago I would have ignored you had you said this to me.  3 years ago if I thought like this my wife would have never married me.  Now we still have not eaten rabbit, nor killed any, but do have them, ready to bread with food for them for a period of time.  Look into it  for the bunker down at home situations.


The best way to close is to say prevention.  If you see a way to prevent the collapse of the dollar, by voting or any other way, you owe it to do your part.  I don&#039;t see it being avoided at this time, but as Americans you know what I mean. If you can help.. do so.  Wake up your friends, and family.  America has not defended its republic for too long, and this is the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,<br />
    While Smitty has a point you have hit the nail on the head of why he is only accurate to a degree, all be it a large degree.</p>
<p>  Smitty is right, but does not go far enough.  You must have the ability to survive if/when you need to bug out.  You need to know techniques both military and past tribal in your area as applicable.<br />
   However you must customize your survival plans around several facts.  1. That you may need to toss them all out the door and improvise.  2. That there is no one solution for all possibilities. 3. That it will vary from person to person- I.e. your parents situations.<br />
   Planning ahead provides insight on how to come out on top, or closer thereto after everything implodes and rebuilding starts.  Those who depend on just survival skills will have to rely on them longer than those who had learned survival skills and invested for when the rebuilding begins.</p>
<p>Smitty is completely correct that you must know these skills.  However learning these skills whilst preparing for other options and avenues at the same time is very do-able when done in advance.  And the more you do and learn, the better off you will be.  </p>
<p>It is also about teaching.  Think about it, people do not even know how to make their own soap anymore.  Cure meat in a root cellar without your bed bath and beyond food dehydrator.  Canning?  Yeah I would guess this is about 2% of the world population.  How about medical tricks and wives tales from before the wonder of pharmacy drugs?   Simple skill sets are lost to time for the masses, at least for now.  Get a hold of this information, print it out and put it in a binder and memorize as much as you can.</p>
<p>Stock your food.  Stock your gold, <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> or whatever.  Stash water.  AMMO.  Whatever you can do to better sleep at night and help others who still have their head up their butts and even laugh at you now.</p>
<p>The key is to be prepared, in any event.  If you can bunker down at home, or if you can survive on the road.  I see nothing wrong with doing both.  The day may come you have to walk away from your food and home, and if you have skills and plans in advance then your cooler head will prevail.</p>
<p>Setup backup plans.  If you have to head north or east, or whatever have a plan where you can go.  Put some of your supplies there as well.  The more places you have supplies stashed the better. (partnerships can help, but pose other issues as well)</p>
<p>The point is, there is nothing you should not do or consider in terms of preparing.  There is plenty you should not do in terms of survival.  See that difference.  Do not stay at your house in the heart of downtown city just because you cannot accept walking away from your hard work and supplies.  Do not underestimate how quickly the best of men will turn to killers to survive longer than you. It’s not human nature, its animal instinct and has happened before.</p>
<p>To wrap up, follow Smitty&#8217;s advice.  Follow others advice.  Do it all to the extent you can.  If this goes down as an economic issue, people will suffer and many may die, but the majority of people will (as a whole) will survive.  There will also be those who will help you.  It’s not that everyone is out to get you in this downturn, people will group up.</p>
<p>Your best bet is to look at how it has happened elsewhere before.  What did people do to survive the great depression?  The Weimar Republic?  Russia?  There are tons of examples.</p>
<p>If you have family that can&#8217;t go mobile, then you have to plan on this fact.  Perhaps you should be able to bug out sooner while cars that are on the road are not yet major targets?  It’s all about what is in your ability to do now.  If you can’t get a tent on the arctic shelf with a ton of supplies to stay warm and get to it before its all really bad then don&#8217;t try.</p>
<p>Personally, I think everyone should have a wood stove, some food, a second location even less remote with similar supplies.  Bug out bags with supplies to help acquire what you will need on the road, and some likeminded people to setup a network of backup plans.  This is where timeshare setups seems better to me then the vacation spot of past years.</p>
<p>Also, while you might gag at the idea now, consider looking into meat bread rabbits.  No other animal produces more meat to a lower cost of care.  One breading pair can feed a family of 4 for a year.  (in the depression days these people were called Hoover hogs and armadillos in the south).  The meat is healthier than anything you are likely eating now.  2 years ago I would have ignored you had you said this to me.  3 years ago if I thought like this my wife would have never married me.  Now we still have not eaten rabbit, nor killed any, but do have them, ready to bread with food for them for a period of time.  Look into it  for the bunker down at home situations.</p>
<p>The best way to close is to say prevention.  If you see a way to prevent the collapse of the dollar, by voting or any other way, you owe it to do your part.  I don&#8217;t see it being avoided at this time, but as Americans you know what I mean. If you can help.. do so.  Wake up your friends, and family.  America has not defended its republic for too long, and this is the price.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-16824</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 06:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say that out of all of the comments that I have read, the one by Smitty seems to make the most sense. It also seems like it would be the hardest to accomplish, because you are picking wild plants, hunting and living out in the elements, while also trying to hide from very desperate and dangerous people. I am a single, 43 year old woman, who has a 64 year old mother who is overweight with a bum knee, as a roommate. I&#039;ve stumbled upon this website, as well as others like it, and I have been completely stressed out and scared about everything I&#039;ve been reading!! I know there are some very valid points herein, and I&#039;d like to prepare the best way possible, so I can survive, and come out on the other end, to be a part of the rebuilding process, if there is one. I&#039;m a fighter and will go through the necessary hardships to survive. I&#039;m not so much afraid of death, as I am of suffering. I just worry about my mother and her boyfriend, who are both old and not physically able to move about in the woods for survival. Contemplating...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that out of all of the comments that I have read, the one by Smitty seems to make the most sense. It also seems like it would be the hardest to accomplish, because you are picking wild plants, hunting and living out in the elements, while also trying to hide from very desperate and dangerous people. I am a single, 43 year old woman, who has a 64 year old mother who is overweight with a bum knee, as a roommate. I&#8217;ve stumbled upon this website, as well as others like it, and I have been completely stressed out and scared about everything I&#8217;ve been reading!! I know there are some very valid points herein, and I&#8217;d like to prepare the best way possible, so I can survive, and come out on the other end, to be a part of the rebuilding process, if there is one. I&#8217;m a fighter and will go through the necessary hardships to survive. I&#8217;m not so much afraid of death, as I am of suffering. I just worry about my mother and her boyfriend, who are both old and not physically able to move about in the woods for survival. Contemplating&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You absolutely must have physical &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; or gold in my opinion and the reason for that is banks cannot be trusted to hold your belongings. If you went with a third party secure location that doesn&#039;t want your belongings but would rather have your monthly storage fees, that would be ok in my opinion. If you are worried about having gold/&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; in your house when chaos happens, just hide it well (drywall it in or get a safe that bolts the cement floor in your basement, bury it in the back yard). Or why not sell it once it rises in price - chaos will affect this rise in price... it could be a good time to sell at that point provided you find a buyer. I don&#039;t have all the answers and I can&#039;t predict the future but having the physical stuff is going to be better than not having it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You absolutely must have physical <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> or gold in my opinion and the reason for that is banks cannot be trusted to hold your belongings. If you went with a third party secure location that doesn&#8217;t want your belongings but would rather have your monthly storage fees, that would be ok in my opinion. If you are worried about having gold/<a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> in your house when chaos happens, just hide it well (drywall it in or get a safe that bolts the cement floor in your basement, bury it in the back yard). Or why not sell it once it rises in price &#8211; chaos will affect this rise in price&#8230; it could be a good time to sell at that point provided you find a buyer. I don&#8217;t have all the answers and I can&#8217;t predict the future but having the physical stuff is going to be better than not having it.</p>
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		<title>By: Getting Ready</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getting Ready</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question:  Can I buy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; through like ameritrade so that is like a security or commodity.  I do not want to have pounds of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; in my house when chaos hits...  Thanks for the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:  Can I buy <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> through like ameritrade so that is like a security or commodity.  I do not want to have pounds of <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> in my house when chaos hits&#8230;  Thanks for the help.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey jmb,
There are two sources most folks use. One is their local coin dealer. IF he is fair priced great. If you can form a relationship of trust and loyalty you have accomplished much. Then when it comes time to sell you will have a partner in a win-win situation. I have given my dealer many referrals and he is most appreciative. He is a decent human being so it works. The key is win-win, no greed.
I go to my local guy for small purchases only.

When I want to place a larger order I use APMEX. for their discounts on large orders. They are fair priced, professional, user friendly website/ordering, fast, excellent quality coins, they have been around for years and have a good reputation. I buy seconds, rounds, Buffalos, but you couldn&#039;t tell they&#039;re seconds because they ALL look new. Plus they have a 800 # in which you can call and ask all the questions you want, friendly guys there. A feature I like is they shoot me an email of my purchase agreement for my records, then another email alerting me that they have received my check with the arrival date and tracking info.. And it does arrive by the date they give, sometimes earlier.
 Remember when you press send, the order is in and you have signed a contract, no changing your mind. 
Also I would send a check, they do give a grace period if you are late with the check by a few days,... usually.
They also have descreet packaging and return address so the nosey letter carrier won&#039;t be telling the neighorhood you&#039;ve got 20 lbs. of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;.
Free advice, .... take every extra dime and buy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;, the dollar is history.

God bless!
MK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey jmb,<br />
There are two sources most folks use. One is their local coin dealer. IF he is fair priced great. If you can form a relationship of trust and loyalty you have accomplished much. Then when it comes time to sell you will have a partner in a win-win situation. I have given my dealer many referrals and he is most appreciative. He is a decent human being so it works. The key is win-win, no greed.<br />
I go to my local guy for small purchases only.</p>
<p>When I want to place a larger order I use APMEX. for their discounts on large orders. They are fair priced, professional, user friendly website/ordering, fast, excellent quality coins, they have been around for years and have a good reputation. I buy seconds, rounds, Buffalos, but you couldn&#8217;t tell they&#8217;re seconds because they ALL look new. Plus they have a 800 # in which you can call and ask all the questions you want, friendly guys there. A feature I like is they shoot me an email of my purchase agreement for my records, then another email alerting me that they have received my check with the arrival date and tracking info.. And it does arrive by the date they give, sometimes earlier.<br />
 Remember when you press send, the order is in and you have signed a contract, no changing your mind.<br />
Also I would send a check, they do give a grace period if you are late with the check by a few days,&#8230; usually.<br />
They also have descreet packaging and return address so the nosey letter carrier won&#8217;t be telling the neighorhood you&#8217;ve got 20 lbs. of <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>.<br />
Free advice, &#8230;. take every extra dime and buy <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>, the dollar is history.</p>
<p>God bless!<br />
MK</p>
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		<title>By: jmb</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15921</link>
		<dc:creator>jmb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where can we get the best info on silver buying--where and what kind etc?  Any referrals for how-to survival dvd&#039;s?  thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where can we get the best info on silver buying&#8211;where and what kind etc?  Any referrals for how-to survival dvd&#8217;s?  thanks!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15911</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Smitty,
You make a lot of sense. I wish I lived next door to you during survival times and I hope we all take what you said and do learn survival skills. Simple things, about skills to make a fire and protecting against hypothermia etc., is valuable However, I do believe none of us can predict the future. So storing food, water,supplies,  seeds, and silver seems intelligent to me, IMHO.  
The better prepared the safer we all are. 
Thank you for your words of wisdom! I will do even more investigating now. We can all learn more to prepare. 
God bless. 
Mary Kay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Smitty,<br />
You make a lot of sense. I wish I lived next door to you during survival times and I hope we all take what you said and do learn survival skills. Simple things, about skills to make a fire and protecting against hypothermia etc., is valuable However, I do believe none of us can predict the future. So storing food, water,supplies,  seeds, and silver seems intelligent to me, IMHO.<br />
The better prepared the safer we all are.<br />
Thank you for your words of wisdom! I will do even more investigating now. We can all learn more to prepare.<br />
God bless.<br />
Mary Kay</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Betoin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Betoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know most of you who left replies were American, but I am British and an increasing number of us have the same growing global concerns as you have. I have been telling people for many years to prepare for the day when their survival will depend on themselves. Information, knowledge and practical steps will be the key. Learn as much as possible about everything you will need to survive. Self preservation is paramount and there is very good advice in the previous replies. If you are prepared, everyone will want what you have, so keep it quiet and only make plans with those closest to you. This is not paranoia or scaremongering, this is a very real possibility, that I believe will materialize around the end of 2012, with the collapse of the Dollar. Forget possessions and focus on food, water, medical, protection, practical skills and a viable plan to remove yourself as far away as possible from the desperate hoards should be your priority.Learn and learn quickly ! Then when the dust settles, we can begin to rebuild a decent, fair and sustainable society. Here&#039;s to survival !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know most of you who left replies were American, but I am British and an increasing number of us have the same growing global concerns as you have. I have been telling people for many years to prepare for the day when their survival will depend on themselves. Information, knowledge and practical steps will be the key. Learn as much as possible about everything you will need to survive. Self preservation is paramount and there is very good advice in the previous replies. If you are prepared, everyone will want what you have, so keep it quiet and only make plans with those closest to you. This is not paranoia or scaremongering, this is a very real possibility, that I believe will materialize around the end of 2012, with the collapse of the Dollar. Forget possessions and focus on food, water, medical, protection, practical skills and a viable plan to remove yourself as far away as possible from the desperate hoards should be your priority.Learn and learn quickly ! Then when the dust settles, we can begin to rebuild a decent, fair and sustainable society. Here&#8217;s to survival !</p>
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		<title>By: Smitty</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15865</link>
		<dc:creator>Smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many REAL survival experts talk about stocking up on ANYTHING(gold, food, etc.)? Having an excess of anything, in a real economic collapse, makes you a bigger target for those around you. All of these so-called “experts” that are peddling gold, silver, seeds, food are making tons of money based on your fear. In a situation where there is no electricity, no law, no accountability, there is only ONE thing of value…YOUR own survival skills. Think you can stay where you are and defend your stuff? You can’t stay awake 24 hours a day; and you won’t have enough ammo. In survival, it’s not how much “stuff” you have…it’s about what you can defend. And it’s about how much you can carry. All of this crap about stocking up on supplies and gold is giving you a false sense of security. How long do you think you can last before terrified and hungry people start coming to take your stuff? A week? A month? Even if you live out in the country. How long will it be before thousands of hungry people start leaving the city and roaming the country side looking for shelter and food?

If you think that “survival” means that you’re to have a house in the country with plenty of food, gold, and a solar generator…ask Randy Weaver or David Koresh how well it worked out for them. All they dealt with was a few hundred coordinated people with rifles. Change those situations to hundreds (then thousands) of hungry people and then think if you have the man-power to guard a perimeter 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Here’s some REAL survival advice. And it’s completely free. Learn the survival techniques taught to the military (ie Army Infantry, Rangers, SF, Marine Corps, Navy SEALs, etc.). Watch shows by Les Stroud and Bear Grylls. Read books or websites that teach personal survival. Learn the principals of the Light Infantry (ie staying off roads, avoiding populated areas, getting to staying in the wood line). Understand that survival is NOT about how much stuff you have to defend, but about how much stuff you can carry. Understand that survival from thousands (or millions) of hungry people will require you to be nomadic.

Change your thinking about survival. Instead of thinking “how much food do I have?” Think “what can I carry in a ruck sack that will aid me in getting food in the woods” Instead of thinking “how much water do I have?” Think “what can I carry in a ruck sack that will aid me in drinking clean water that I find?” Instead of thinking “I need to maintain shelter from the elements.” Think “what can I carry in a ruck sack that will keep me dry and give me shelter?” Instead of thinking “how many boxes of ammo can I stock?” Think “how much ammo can I carry”?

What about medical supplies? A standard “first aid” kit has a bunch of stuff that won’t need in it. Plus, which first aid kit should you get? The big one? The really big one? Which one is best? Do a little research to find out the absolute essentials needed in a survival first aid kit. Taking a Red Cross standard first aid class is worth a lot more than gold.

In short, prepare to go mobile. Prepare as if you will need to go on foot. Plan the quickest (and safest) routes from your front door to the woods. Plan at least three routes OUT of town. This means you AND your family. Everyone on foot, quietly, expediently, and smartly. Avoiding any authorities (if any still exist at that point) and contact with other people. Survive on your own or with your immediate family.

Now if, at some time in the future, you stumble across a well organized community of people (provided their perimeter security personnel don’t shoot you out of fear)…then maybe they’ll take you in. But if you don’t have any relevant skills to add to their community then they most likely won’t let you in. So you’ll have to be self sustaining until you come across a large enough community that can afford to be more accepting. But don’t count finding such a community.

People say “prepare for the worst but hope for the best”. Well I just told you how to truly prepare for the worst. And it didn’t cost you a dime.

Who am I? I was a Light Infantry Soldier that had the opportunity to get some of the best survival training that is available; also served in Iraq for a year. I was also an EMT/Paramedic for 8 years.

If you have any doubt as to whether or not the survival information that I have provided for you is correct or not…don’t ask the peddlers of gold, seeds, solar generators. Ask an Army or marine Corps Infantry Soldier, an Army Ranger, Army SF Soldier, Marine Corps Force Recon, Navy SEAL, Air Force Combat Controller, or Air Force Para-rescue. They’ll all tell you the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many REAL survival experts talk about stocking up on ANYTHING(gold, food, etc.)? Having an excess of anything, in a real economic collapse, makes you a bigger target for those around you. All of these so-called “experts” that are peddling gold, silver, seeds, food are making tons of money based on your fear. In a situation where there is no electricity, no law, no accountability, there is only ONE thing of value…YOUR own survival skills. Think you can stay where you are and defend your stuff? You can’t stay awake 24 hours a day; and you won’t have enough ammo. In survival, it’s not how much “stuff” you have…it’s about what you can defend. And it’s about how much you can carry. All of this crap about stocking up on supplies and gold is giving you a false sense of security. How long do you think you can last before terrified and hungry people start coming to take your stuff? A week? A month? Even if you live out in the country. How long will it be before thousands of hungry people start leaving the city and roaming the country side looking for shelter and food?</p>
<p>If you think that “survival” means that you’re to have a house in the country with plenty of food, gold, and a solar generator…ask Randy Weaver or David Koresh how well it worked out for them. All they dealt with was a few hundred coordinated people with rifles. Change those situations to hundreds (then thousands) of hungry people and then think if you have the man-power to guard a perimeter 24 hours a day, seven days a week.</p>
<p>Here’s some REAL survival advice. And it’s completely free. Learn the survival techniques taught to the military (ie Army Infantry, Rangers, SF, Marine Corps, Navy SEALs, etc.). Watch shows by Les Stroud and Bear Grylls. Read books or websites that teach personal survival. Learn the principals of the Light Infantry (ie staying off roads, avoiding populated areas, getting to staying in the wood line). Understand that survival is NOT about how much stuff you have to defend, but about how much stuff you can carry. Understand that survival from thousands (or millions) of hungry people will require you to be nomadic.</p>
<p>Change your thinking about survival. Instead of thinking “how much food do I have?” Think “what can I carry in a ruck sack that will aid me in getting food in the woods” Instead of thinking “how much water do I have?” Think “what can I carry in a ruck sack that will aid me in drinking clean water that I find?” Instead of thinking “I need to maintain shelter from the elements.” Think “what can I carry in a ruck sack that will keep me dry and give me shelter?” Instead of thinking “how many boxes of ammo can I stock?” Think “how much ammo can I carry”?</p>
<p>What about medical supplies? A standard “first aid” kit has a bunch of stuff that won’t need in it. Plus, which first aid kit should you get? The big one? The really big one? Which one is best? Do a little research to find out the absolute essentials needed in a survival first aid kit. Taking a Red Cross standard first aid class is worth a lot more than gold.</p>
<p>In short, prepare to go mobile. Prepare as if you will need to go on foot. Plan the quickest (and safest) routes from your front door to the woods. Plan at least three routes OUT of town. This means you AND your family. Everyone on foot, quietly, expediently, and smartly. Avoiding any authorities (if any still exist at that point) and contact with other people. Survive on your own or with your immediate family.</p>
<p>Now if, at some time in the future, you stumble across a well organized community of people (provided their perimeter security personnel don’t shoot you out of fear)…then maybe they’ll take you in. But if you don’t have any relevant skills to add to their community then they most likely won’t let you in. So you’ll have to be self sustaining until you come across a large enough community that can afford to be more accepting. But don’t count finding such a community.</p>
<p>People say “prepare for the worst but hope for the best”. Well I just told you how to truly prepare for the worst. And it didn’t cost you a dime.</p>
<p>Who am I? I was a Light Infantry Soldier that had the opportunity to get some of the best survival training that is available; also served in Iraq for a year. I was also an EMT/Paramedic for 8 years.</p>
<p>If you have any doubt as to whether or not the survival information that I have provided for you is correct or not…don’t ask the peddlers of gold, seeds, solar generators. Ask an Army or marine Corps Infantry Soldier, an Army Ranger, Army SF Soldier, Marine Corps Force Recon, Navy SEAL, Air Force Combat Controller, or Air Force Para-rescue. They’ll all tell you the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Preppedinwv</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again friends. The time has come for everything to fall into place. March 15 2011 is the day the dollar will die along with our country as well. A pole shift of 40 degrees is said to occur as well. I believe that this may indeed happen. In the event you readers believe me please bug out now. I myself am leaving the city very soon. Get away from the new Madrid fault and at least 300 miles from the coastline. Any questions, issues, or comments please contact me. (304)-731-7106. Good luck to you all.

&lt;strong&gt;Preppedinwv wrote me an article:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/a-letter-from-a-friend/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CLICK HERE&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again friends. The time has come for everything to fall into place. March 15 2011 is the day the dollar will die along with our country as well. A pole shift of 40 degrees is said to occur as well. I believe that this may indeed happen. In the event you readers believe me please bug out now. I myself am leaving the city very soon. Get away from the new Madrid fault and at least 300 miles from the coastline. Any questions, issues, or comments please contact me. (304)-731-7106. Good luck to you all.</p>
<p><strong>Preppedinwv wrote me an article:</strong> <a href="http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/a-letter-from-a-friend/" rel="nofollow">CLICK HERE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-15020</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 07:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADMIN. SAID: &quot;I will be making sure to get out of silver BEFORE fiat currency is completely worthless as well.&quot;

Hmmm. Not sure if I can understanding that logic. When the dollar turns to dust that is when silver will be the most valuable. 
Now if you&#039;re saying you will get last minute dollars to make store purchases, I can understand that. 
However, I believe when the dollar is completely worthless silver will skyrocket and be the most common form of barter/money. 
I&#039;ll hold on to my silver as long as I can.
But who really knows now what we will be doing a year from now?  I&#039;m shocked daily by this fascist govt.. Who knows what they have up their sleeves for the masses. 
I think things will be clearer down the road.
Wisdom tells me to keep investing in silver no matter the cost. Only the foolish will hold on to dollars.
MK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADMIN. SAID: &#8220;I will be making sure to get out of silver BEFORE fiat currency is completely worthless as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm. Not sure if I can understanding that logic. When the dollar turns to dust that is when silver will be the most valuable.<br />
Now if you&#8217;re saying you will get last minute dollars to make store purchases, I can understand that.<br />
However, I believe when the dollar is completely worthless silver will skyrocket and be the most common form of barter/money.<br />
I&#8217;ll hold on to my silver as long as I can.<br />
But who really knows now what we will be doing a year from now?  I&#8217;m shocked daily by this fascist govt.. Who knows what they have up their sleeves for the masses.<br />
I think things will be clearer down the road.<br />
Wisdom tells me to keep investing in silver no matter the cost. Only the foolish will hold on to dollars.<br />
MK</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ken, 
Great question!! Land is my answer. Real estate, etc..
I will be making sure to get out of silver BEFORE fiat currency is completely worthless as well.
Hope this helps :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ken,<br />
Great question!! Land is my answer. Real estate, etc..<br />
I will be making sure to get out of silver BEFORE fiat currency is completely worthless as well.<br />
Hope this helps <img src='http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ken Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-14966</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admin: I am new to this site and read your entry stating you will sell your silver when everyone is buying and/or it reaches $1,000 an ounce. I don&#039;t understand what you will be selling it for. If the fiat money is worthless, what are you exchanging your silver to get while everyone is lined up to buy silver?
Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admin: I am new to this site and read your entry stating you will sell your silver when everyone is buying and/or it reaches $1,000 an ounce. I don&#8217;t understand what you will be selling it for. If the fiat money is worthless, what are you exchanging your silver to get while everyone is lined up to buy silver?<br />
Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-14662</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 01:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, excellent post, wisdom for sure! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNIuZOTReg&amp;NR=1

Check out this video with Alex Jones and Pastor Lindsay Williams. It&#039;s a 5 part series but definately worth the time to listen to. It will blow you away!!
 
Folks silver is up to $35.96 an ounce to purchase! Get it before it explodes, which will be soon! 
The Middle East is on fire and Iran is sending two warships to the Suez Canal. All this can only result in one thing, higher gas prices, which means higher food prices. 
So stock up now! 

God bless you all! 
Mary kay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, excellent post, wisdom for sure! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNIuZOTReg&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNIuZOTReg&#038;NR=1</a></p>
<p>Check out this video with Alex Jones and Pastor Lindsay Williams. It&#8217;s a 5 part series but definately worth the time to listen to. It will blow you away!!</p>
<p>Folks silver is up to $35.96 an ounce to purchase! Get it before it explodes, which will be soon!<br />
The Middle East is on fire and Iran is sending two warships to the Suez Canal. All this can only result in one thing, higher gas prices, which means higher food prices.<br />
So stock up now! </p>
<p>God bless you all!<br />
Mary kay</p>
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		<title>By: Stev</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-14314</link>
		<dc:creator>Stev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>preppedinwestvirginia has put out some good info - the same as I follow &amp; teach but I am surprised by his misspelling. He said he attended SIERS but its spelled SERE - which stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape.

Prep now or be left wanting.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>preppedinwestvirginia has put out some good info &#8211; the same as I follow &amp; teach but I am surprised by his misspelling. He said he attended SIERS but its spelled SERE &#8211; which stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape.</p>
<p>Prep now or be left wanting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-14052</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading your comments very much.  Thanks.
Might a add a few of my own?  Firstly, it will be the spoiled people that panic and jump out of windows before the rest of us.  The young lady that can&#039;t afford to get her nails done, women that can&#039;t afford to get there hair straightened, the man that can no longer afford or find his illicit drugs, cell phone, etc.  The whine of the spoiled will be your first warning sign.

Secondly, prepare spiritually.  You and your family may not be destined to survive.  A bad tooth in the country will kill you. Pray for guidence and be prepared to lead.

Lastly, plan now to prosper over the coming bad years.  Do not form group associations now.  Wait.  The signs down the road will lead you to who to associate with in the future.  Survive by living conservative, seek others like you later not now. Never stand out in the crowd.

Your contented mind will guide you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading your comments very much.  Thanks.<br />
Might a add a few of my own?  Firstly, it will be the spoiled people that panic and jump out of windows before the rest of us.  The young lady that can&#8217;t afford to get her nails done, women that can&#8217;t afford to get there hair straightened, the man that can no longer afford or find his illicit drugs, cell phone, etc.  The whine of the spoiled will be your first warning sign.</p>
<p>Secondly, prepare spiritually.  You and your family may not be destined to survive.  A bad tooth in the country will kill you. Pray for guidence and be prepared to lead.</p>
<p>Lastly, plan now to prosper over the coming bad years.  Do not form group associations now.  Wait.  The signs down the road will lead you to who to associate with in the future.  Survive by living conservative, seek others like you later not now. Never stand out in the crowd.</p>
<p>Your contented mind will guide you.</p>
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		<title>By: Breeder</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-13616</link>
		<dc:creator>Breeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw a pretty decent video of how a collapse might go down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMokBM6caRE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw a pretty decent video of how a collapse might go down.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMokBM6caRE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMokBM6caRE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-11867</link>
		<dc:creator>Cosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have looked through A LOT of survival info out there and many are awesome. But it&#039;s like this:

If the guide or course does not thoroughly explain how to set up in all situations, it&#039;s as if you aren&#039;t prepared at all.

Imagine being totally stocked up at home but being at the mall when disaster strikes!

This &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/investigate/SurvivalComments2010&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;free survival mini-course&lt;/a&gt; is a lead in to the best course I&#039;ve ever taken and I highly recommend it to everyone I meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have looked through A LOT of survival info out there and many are awesome. But it&#8217;s like this:</p>
<p>If the guide or course does not thoroughly explain how to set up in all situations, it&#8217;s as if you aren&#8217;t prepared at all.</p>
<p>Imagine being totally stocked up at home but being at the mall when disaster strikes!</p>
<p>This <a href="http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/investigate/SurvivalComments2010" rel="nofollow">free survival mini-course</a> is a lead in to the best course I&#8217;ve ever taken and I highly recommend it to everyone I meet.<br />
<span class="cluv">Cosmo´s last [type] ..<a class="277367cc88 11867" rel="nofollow" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/EconomicCollapseSurvival/~3/h7irCAtrEbo/">Self Defense</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: preppedinwestvirginia</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-11499</link>
		<dc:creator>preppedinwestvirginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been planning and stocking up for sometime now. I currently have a one year supply of food for 7 ppl. I am also a survival expert(ex-army). Have had jungle and mountain survival training and SIERS. I do believe we will see something bad happen by mid 2012 at least. 

So learn all you can about survival even if just watching Man VS Wild, Bear Grylls can teach you alot. 

So, i reccomend lots of guns to protect you and your loved ones, things will get crazy when people begin to panic. They WILL kill you and your family for food. 

My everyday carry for this situation consists of 2- .40 Cal&#039;s, 2-.45 Cal&#039;s, 1-.38 SPL, 1-12 ga. pump and a knife. That is with three magazine&#039;s per pistol, about 120 rounds at anytime if I need it. Plus i have about 1,000 rounds per weapon stockpiled. So if I encounter a small group or kind of large group I can fend them off. 

My wife will also carry 2- .380&#039;s. Plus it would be wise to have a 30-30 or 30.06 for hunting/sniper security. 

If you are in a small group make sure you always have someone posted on watch 24 hours a day. Pick a spot high enough to have 360 degree security at all times. I am in a pretty good position for this event, the elevation where i live is over 3,000 ft above sea level( in case of a tsunami,etc) and also have 3 fully stocked ponds with bass, catfish you name it, 275 acres of woodland, and several freshwater springs and coal mine shafts. 

I am willing and prepared to do whatever it takes to protect me and mine. ( Also one last weapon suggestion, alot of ppl think an AR-15 or M4 is the way to go, they are expensive as is the ammo. go with an AK-47 half the price for the weapon, bigger bullets and way cheaper ammo. Example: 1,000 5.56 rounds= $500.00+, 1,000 7.62 rounds=$150. 

If there are any serious ppl that are awake in southern west virginia please email me if you want to get together and learn survival techniques and learn what supplies to stock. pv2burrell@live.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been planning and stocking up for sometime now. I currently have a one year supply of food for 7 ppl. I am also a survival expert(ex-army). Have had jungle and mountain survival training and SIERS. I do believe we will see something bad happen by mid 2012 at least. </p>
<p>So learn all you can about survival even if just watching Man VS Wild, Bear Grylls can teach you alot. </p>
<p>So, i reccomend lots of guns to protect you and your loved ones, things will get crazy when people begin to panic. They WILL kill you and your family for food. </p>
<p>My everyday carry for this situation consists of 2- .40 Cal&#8217;s, 2-.45 Cal&#8217;s, 1-.38 SPL, 1-12 ga. pump and a knife. That is with three magazine&#8217;s per pistol, about 120 rounds at anytime if I need it. Plus i have about 1,000 rounds per weapon stockpiled. So if I encounter a small group or kind of large group I can fend them off. </p>
<p>My wife will also carry 2- .380&#8242;s. Plus it would be wise to have a 30-30 or 30.06 for hunting/sniper security. </p>
<p>If you are in a small group make sure you always have someone posted on watch 24 hours a day. Pick a spot high enough to have 360 degree security at all times. I am in a pretty good position for this event, the elevation where i live is over 3,000 ft above sea level( in case of a tsunami,etc) and also have 3 fully stocked ponds with bass, catfish you name it, 275 acres of woodland, and several freshwater springs and coal mine shafts. </p>
<p>I am willing and prepared to do whatever it takes to protect me and mine. ( Also one last weapon suggestion, alot of ppl think an AR-15 or M4 is the way to go, they are expensive as is the ammo. go with an AK-47 half the price for the weapon, bigger bullets and way cheaper ammo. Example: 1,000 5.56 rounds= $500.00+, 1,000 7.62 rounds=$150. </p>
<p>If there are any serious ppl that are awake in southern west virginia please email me if you want to get together and learn survival techniques and learn what supplies to stock. <a href="mailto:pv2burrell@live.com">pv2burrell@live.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fermin Roenigk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fermin Roenigk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother suggested I might like this website. He was entirely right. This post truly made my day. You cann&#039;t imagine simply how much time I had spent for this information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother suggested I might like this website. He was entirely right. This post truly made my day. You cann&#8217;t imagine simply how much time I had spent for this information!</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget important identification documents like birth certificate/passport, marriage license, etc.</description>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We started preparing over 5-years ago with the purchase of a rural property.  Set it up to to take care of us, and we have developed good relationships with our neighbors and all have an understanding of the potential future.  All these recomendations are great and need to be looked at.  But do not forget the need for water collection, solar power or charging systems and maybe some wind sources too.  SELF PROTECTION is a must.  We&#039;ve started canning and have seed for three years and two fruit trees that are producing.  Get yourself to a rural area and away from the big city or a way out off the main highways.  I agree with the earlier statement that if you haven&#039;t started at least two years ago you have alot of work ahead. I would recommend that you pick up the FoxFire Books vol. #1 &amp; #2.  and the urban &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/investigate/SurvivalComments2010&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Survival Guide&lt;/a&gt; if you&#039;re in the cities... Good Luck and hope things work out.  Oh yeah!  Antibiotics. (will be worth more than gold)!  You would be surprised how many die from a simple cut!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We started preparing over 5-years ago with the purchase of a rural property.  Set it up to to take care of us, and we have developed good relationships with our neighbors and all have an understanding of the potential future.  All these recomendations are great and need to be looked at.  But do not forget the need for water collection, solar power or charging systems and maybe some wind sources too.  SELF PROTECTION is a must.  We&#8217;ve started canning and have seed for three years and two fruit trees that are producing.  Get yourself to a rural area and away from the big city or a way out off the main highways.  I agree with the earlier statement that if you haven&#8217;t started at least two years ago you have alot of work ahead. I would recommend that you pick up the FoxFire Books vol. #1 &amp; #2.  and the urban <a href="http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/investigate/SurvivalComments2010" rel="nofollow">Survival Guide</a> if you&#8217;re in the cities&#8230; Good Luck and hope things work out.  Oh yeah!  Antibiotics. (will be worth more than gold)!  You would be surprised how many die from a simple cut!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 05:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jessica,
You are right about storing up food and supplies and if your parent&#039;s home is paid for and they are out of debt they will fair better than most. 
However the dollar is about to be trashed. QE2 if merely flooding the economy with dollars, this decreases the dollar&#039;s value and will lead to hyper-inflation. With trillions in the system the dollar will be worth approx. 5 cents, maybe 10 at the most. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silver&lt;/a&gt; is money. Silver prices respond to the value of the dollar. If the dollar is worth less it now takes more dollars to buy that same piece of silver. This is why we are seeing silver and gold up this past year. Silver and gold will preserve the value of your money. The silver market is experiencing a correction so you are hitting it at a great time! Lucky you!  

For example, if you invest $100.00 in silver today and buy 3 coins and let&#039;s say your friend doesn&#039;t and stays in the dollar, when hyper-inflation comes their $100.00 will be worth $5.00 and your $100.00 of silver will be worth approx. $900.00. If a loaf of bread is $24.00 during hper-inflation she can afford 1/5 of a loaf of bread and you will be able to buy 37 loaves of bread. 
I suggest you buy as much &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; as you can. You may even become weathy if you&#039;re smart. Those who are in precious metals will make it, they will survive but those who trust in the dollar will be destroyed financially. 
I suggest you do some homework and youtube Peter Schiff, Marc Farber, Jim Rogers, Gerald Celente and Max Kaiser, all market experts, then you will clearly understand that I have just saved your future!

In Jesus,
Mary Kay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jessica,<br />
You are right about storing up food and supplies and if your parent&#8217;s home is paid for and they are out of debt they will fair better than most.<br />
However the dollar is about to be trashed. QE2 if merely flooding the economy with dollars, this decreases the dollar&#8217;s value and will lead to hyper-inflation. With trillions in the system the dollar will be worth approx. 5 cents, maybe 10 at the most. <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">Silver</a> is money. Silver prices respond to the value of the dollar. If the dollar is worth less it now takes more dollars to buy that same piece of silver. This is why we are seeing silver and gold up this past year. Silver and gold will preserve the value of your money. The silver market is experiencing a correction so you are hitting it at a great time! Lucky you!  </p>
<p>For example, if you invest $100.00 in silver today and buy 3 coins and let&#8217;s say your friend doesn&#8217;t and stays in the dollar, when hyper-inflation comes their $100.00 will be worth $5.00 and your $100.00 of silver will be worth approx. $900.00. If a loaf of bread is $24.00 during hper-inflation she can afford 1/5 of a loaf of bread and you will be able to buy 37 loaves of bread.<br />
I suggest you buy as much <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> as you can. You may even become weathy if you&#8217;re smart. Those who are in precious metals will make it, they will survive but those who trust in the dollar will be destroyed financially.<br />
I suggest you do some homework and youtube Peter Schiff, Marc Farber, Jim Rogers, Gerald Celente and Max Kaiser, all market experts, then you will clearly understand that I have just saved your future!</p>
<p>In Jesus,<br />
Mary Kay</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t see the point in stocking up on gold and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;. I am currently 26 and still live at home because I can&#039;t make a living for myself with a part-time job at Walmart and from what I fear and from what I am speculating I may never be able to be on my own. I have been starting to stock up on food but it will be a scary time in deed if the economy does collapse. I remember reading in a book by Michael Brown called &quot;The Last Secret&quot; basically everything he described in his book throughout the history of man happened in cycles; there were wars and famines, then there were times of peace and it started over again with wars and famines and peace. 
I do believe that we are in for some rough times and I am glad that I am done with college and have a degree and a job regardless if I enjoy it or not but I can&#039;t imagine what will become of the youth of this generation who are in college and who are starting families. It is scary to even think about it. 
I just feel the best thing for us (for me especially) who can&#039;t afford gold or silver is to just stock up on food and other necessities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t see the point in stocking up on gold and <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>. I am currently 26 and still live at home because I can&#8217;t make a living for myself with a part-time job at Walmart and from what I fear and from what I am speculating I may never be able to be on my own. I have been starting to stock up on food but it will be a scary time in deed if the economy does collapse. I remember reading in a book by Michael Brown called &#8220;The Last Secret&#8221; basically everything he described in his book throughout the history of man happened in cycles; there were wars and famines, then there were times of peace and it started over again with wars and famines and peace.<br />
I do believe that we are in for some rough times and I am glad that I am done with college and have a degree and a job regardless if I enjoy it or not but I can&#8217;t imagine what will become of the youth of this generation who are in college and who are starting families. It is scary to even think about it.<br />
I just feel the best thing for us (for me especially) who can&#8217;t afford gold or silver is to just stock up on food and other necessities.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 06:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three times in the Bible, the Lord warned his people to prepare.  Noah, Joseph and Ezekiel were told to prepare.  Ezekiel stored wheat, spelt, barley, lentils, millet and beans and water.   

Rice goes bad and gets an awful taste.  

Toilet paper will be great for bartering with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three times in the Bible, the Lord warned his people to prepare.  Noah, Joseph and Ezekiel were told to prepare.  Ezekiel stored wheat, spelt, barley, lentils, millet and beans and water.   </p>
<p>Rice goes bad and gets an awful taste.  </p>
<p>Toilet paper will be great for bartering with.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 05:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something is going down soon.i really hope that nothing will but its better to be safe than sorry.i have been stocking up on ammo so i should be alright.thanks for the info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something is going down soon.i really hope that nothing will but its better to be safe than sorry.i have been stocking up on ammo so i should be alright.thanks for the info</p>
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		<title>By: Denny Crane for President</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-2/#comment-5493</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny Crane for President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 05:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for this information!!!  I personally believe in the old adage:  I&#039;d rather have it and not need it than the other way around.  This info helps!!!

Just an FYI but I&#039;m going to stock up on guns &amp; ammo first and foremost.  No matter what, this is primarily the only thing going to keep you safe if/when society breaks down.

From there, my priorities are;  food, water, snivel gear and any other items to barter with (warm clothes, silver, liquor, coffee, cigarettes, etc).

Something else you all may want to consider:

- Perimeter defense (razor wire, fishing line attached to cans as an early warning device, trip flares, etc).

- large sheets of 4x8 OSB boards.  Covering up windows and doors is important but you can also use the board for shelves or even burn if necessary.

- Bug out plan.  I have a truck with a camper and a towed trailer.  In less than 30 minutes, I can pack up, move out and head for the hills.  The idea being similar to the old movie &quot;Red Dawn.&quot;  

- I installed a vault door on my basement fruit room.  It works as both a secured storage and as a PANIC ROOM if necessary.

Finally, I am personally of the opinion that I should keep my mouth shut.  The less people who know me, the better.  My intentions, my capabilities or my storage amount is simply MY BUSINESS.  

If you disbelieve in preparation, fine with me.  We all make choices in our lives.  I hope you can live with yours.

ONE FINAL NOTE:  the first ones to die will be those who panic.  Next will be the inevitable looters.  Within a few days, the people who need daily medicine will start dying.  As weeks go by, the dead will pile up as the hunger and sickness starts setting in.  Remember Rudyard Kipling?  &quot;If you can keep your head while all about your are losing theirs...&quot;.  Well, if you can make it alone for a couple of months to one year, things may just start returning to normal but they&#039;ll never be the same.  

I sincerely hope all my preparations are in vain.  I really hope nothing cataclysmic or apocalyptic happens.  And if nothing happens then so what.  The question is - what if it does happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for this information!!!  I personally believe in the old adage:  I&#8217;d rather have it and not need it than the other way around.  This info helps!!!</p>
<p>Just an FYI but I&#8217;m going to stock up on guns &amp; ammo first and foremost.  No matter what, this is primarily the only thing going to keep you safe if/when society breaks down.</p>
<p>From there, my priorities are;  food, water, snivel gear and any other items to barter with (warm clothes, silver, liquor, coffee, cigarettes, etc).</p>
<p>Something else you all may want to consider:</p>
<p>- Perimeter defense (razor wire, fishing line attached to cans as an early warning device, trip flares, etc).</p>
<p>- large sheets of 4&#215;8 OSB boards.  Covering up windows and doors is important but you can also use the board for shelves or even burn if necessary.</p>
<p>- Bug out plan.  I have a truck with a camper and a towed trailer.  In less than 30 minutes, I can pack up, move out and head for the hills.  The idea being similar to the old movie &#8220;Red Dawn.&#8221;  </p>
<p>- I installed a vault door on my basement fruit room.  It works as both a secured storage and as a PANIC ROOM if necessary.</p>
<p>Finally, I am personally of the opinion that I should keep my mouth shut.  The less people who know me, the better.  My intentions, my capabilities or my storage amount is simply MY BUSINESS.  </p>
<p>If you disbelieve in preparation, fine with me.  We all make choices in our lives.  I hope you can live with yours.</p>
<p>ONE FINAL NOTE:  the first ones to die will be those who panic.  Next will be the inevitable looters.  Within a few days, the people who need daily medicine will start dying.  As weeks go by, the dead will pile up as the hunger and sickness starts setting in.  Remember Rudyard Kipling?  &#8220;If you can keep your head while all about your are losing theirs&#8230;&#8221;.  Well, if you can make it alone for a couple of months to one year, things may just start returning to normal but they&#8217;ll never be the same.  </p>
<p>I sincerely hope all my preparations are in vain.  I really hope nothing cataclysmic or apocalyptic happens.  And if nothing happens then so what.  The question is &#8211; what if it does happen?</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 20:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you forgot weapons! what happens to people who can&#039;t rely on their land? they&#039;ll go looting and rioting for food and supplies, you&#039;re going to protect yourselves from these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you forgot weapons! what happens to people who can&#8217;t rely on their land? they&#8217;ll go looting and rioting for food and supplies, you&#8217;re going to protect yourselves from these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 20:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim....I do not doubt anything. I went to Sam&#039;s yesterday and they said that they can not keep powdered milk on the shelves. Things are getting crazy.

I live on 3+ acres with a fig tree, 4 pecan trees and a pear tree. Also have approx 50 ft of musadine grape vines. NOW....I just need some blueberries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim&#8230;.I do not doubt anything. I went to Sam&#8217;s yesterday and they said that they can not keep powdered milk on the shelves. Things are getting crazy.</p>
<p>I live on 3+ acres with a fig tree, 4 pecan trees and a pear tree. Also have approx 50 ft of musadine grape vines. NOW&#8230;.I just need some blueberries.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 04:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I have to argue with a few ideas here..

Sure, paper money will collapse globally, and the possible new global currency (the &quot;bancor&quot; ?) rise from the ashes, but...let&#039;s say gold and silver triple or quadruple in price. People are unemployed &amp; have no money so how are they going to pay high prices for gold/silver ? 
Sounds nice in theory but this is survival, not market trading !!!
Food/water/shelter are FAR more important than gold and silver.
As for the essentials listed - well, they&#039;re good for a boy scout jamboree, but this is the BIG economic depression here and could run for many many years so your supply base will need to be just as good.
ie a 2 week supply of paper plates is worthless ok !
You need long term strategies - ie permanent water supply, established fruit and vegetables in a crop-rotation situation, solar power, a good wood supply, large reserves ( 5years +) of tinned food and vitamin pills etc.
In short - a fairly remote property with food reserves not readily visible from any public areas, all setup 2 years ago ! (as it&#039;s too late now if you haven&#039;t done it)
Plus a few unregistered weapons and large ammo stockpile (assuming you can actually buy ammo any more) wouldn&#039;t hurt.
The first great depression went for 26 years and a few experts are predicting this one could run 15-20 years, so get prepared for a long haul !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I have to argue with a few ideas here..</p>
<p>Sure, paper money will collapse globally, and the possible new global currency (the &#8220;bancor&#8221; ?) rise from the ashes, but&#8230;let&#8217;s say gold and silver triple or quadruple in price. People are unemployed &amp; have no money so how are they going to pay high prices for gold/silver ?<br />
Sounds nice in theory but this is survival, not market trading !!!<br />
Food/water/shelter are FAR more important than gold and silver.<br />
As for the essentials listed &#8211; well, they&#8217;re good for a boy scout jamboree, but this is the BIG economic depression here and could run for many many years so your supply base will need to be just as good.<br />
ie a 2 week supply of paper plates is worthless ok !<br />
You need long term strategies &#8211; ie permanent water supply, established fruit and vegetables in a crop-rotation situation, solar power, a good wood supply, large reserves ( 5years +) of tinned food and vitamin pills etc.<br />
In short &#8211; a fairly remote property with food reserves not readily visible from any public areas, all setup 2 years ago ! (as it&#8217;s too late now if you haven&#8217;t done it)<br />
Plus a few unregistered weapons and large ammo stockpile (assuming you can actually buy ammo any more) wouldn&#8217;t hurt.<br />
The first great depression went for 26 years and a few experts are predicting this one could run 15-20 years, so get prepared for a long haul !</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 17:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tina...I read the other day that people on the dole, go to Walmart late in the evening the night before they get their &quot;checks.&quot; They fill up their carts, and at the stoke of midnight hit the registers because their money has been electronically transferred into their bank accounts. 

IOn another note, if you can plant fruit and nut trees where you are, do it! Preferably ones that are already a couple of years old and starting to fruit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tina&#8230;I read the other day that people on the dole, go to Walmart late in the evening the night before they get their &#8220;checks.&#8221; They fill up their carts, and at the stoke of midnight hit the registers because their money has been electronically transferred into their bank accounts. </p>
<p>IOn another note, if you can plant fruit and nut trees where you are, do it! Preferably ones that are already a couple of years old and starting to fruit.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveInSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveInSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 07:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of good comments here!
I have done some prepping, but my health has deteriorated to the point that my main focus is now my grandchildren. I am training them as much as I can, so they can continue when I&#039;m no longer there.
I believe there will be value in most of the things mentioned here, including gold and silver in a form suitable for trading.
One thing I would hesitate to buy, would be property / land. If society fails for any significant period, respect for private property will only apply to that which you can defend. Title means nothing without the rule of law.
Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of good comments here!<br />
I have done some prepping, but my health has deteriorated to the point that my main focus is now my grandchildren. I am training them as much as I can, so they can continue when I&#8217;m no longer there.<br />
I believe there will be value in most of the things mentioned here, including gold and silver in a form suitable for trading.<br />
One thing I would hesitate to buy, would be property / land. If society fails for any significant period, respect for private property will only apply to that which you can defend. Title means nothing without the rule of law.<br />
Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tina - two VERY good comments! Thank you for sharing that.

It&#039;s time we wake up and stop relying on the system so completely.

It&#039;s awesome how you had that experiential aha moment. It inspires me. Thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tina &#8211; two VERY good comments! Thank you for sharing that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time we wake up and stop relying on the system so completely.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s awesome how you had that experiential aha moment. It inspires me. Thanks <img src='http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing I want to mention.

I went to Wal-Mart the other day to purchase some can goods and such. Normal stuff. As I rounded the canned food isle I noticed huge gaps on the shelves. Of course they didn&#039;t have any of the stuff I mormally buy. Then I went to the coffee section...same thing. I managed to get a few things and went to the checkout. I mention to the cashier that the shelves looked naked, her response was &quot; oh yea...it&#039;s the first of the month and everyone just got their checks&quot; 

I guess I had a shocked look on my face because she continued with &quot; it is like that the beginning of every month&quot;.

I pondered this for a while

1) is there THAT MANY people in the area (GA) on   the &quot;system&quot;  

2). If it is like this every 1st of every month and Wal-Mart knows this why aren&#039;t they stocking more????  

3). If it is like this during a NORMAL month cycle then &quot;what if&quot; something serious was to happen. 

I guess I have woke up to just how fragile our commerce really is.  

I must also add  that, to make matters worse I went to a local food chain after leaving Wal-Mart and found the exact same thing. Empty shelves!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing I want to mention.</p>
<p>I went to Wal-Mart the other day to purchase some can goods and such. Normal stuff. As I rounded the canned food isle I noticed huge gaps on the shelves. Of course they didn&#8217;t have any of the stuff I mormally buy. Then I went to the coffee section&#8230;same thing. I managed to get a few things and went to the checkout. I mention to the cashier that the shelves looked naked, her response was &#8221; oh yea&#8230;it&#8217;s the first of the month and everyone just got their checks&#8221; </p>
<p>I guess I had a shocked look on my face because she continued with &#8221; it is like that the beginning of every month&#8221;.</p>
<p>I pondered this for a while</p>
<p>1) is there THAT MANY people in the area (GA) on   the &#8220;system&#8221;  </p>
<p>2). If it is like this every 1st of every month and Wal-Mart knows this why aren&#8217;t they stocking more????  </p>
<p>3). If it is like this during a NORMAL month cycle then &#8220;what if&#8221; something serious was to happen. </p>
<p>I guess I have woke up to just how fragile our commerce really is.  </p>
<p>I must also add  that, to make matters worse I went to a local food chain after leaving Wal-Mart and found the exact same thing. Empty shelves!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people &quot;fear&quot; the unknown. Preparing stops fear in it&#039;s tracks. While it is true that you can never prepare for EVERY senerio you can do the basics. You gain a sense of calm when you have a plan and I personally sleep very good at night knowing that &quot;if&quot; something did happen my family at the VERY LEAST has a plan. 

People will panic (out of fear) because they have not given this a second thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people &#8220;fear&#8221; the unknown. Preparing stops fear in it&#8217;s tracks. While it is true that you can never prepare for EVERY senerio you can do the basics. You gain a sense of calm when you have a plan and I personally sleep very good at night knowing that &#8220;if&#8221; something did happen my family at the VERY LEAST has a plan. </p>
<p>People will panic (out of fear) because they have not given this a second thought.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christina, you make an important point about being consumed by negativity.  I would like to pose this question to you: What is the root of negativity, and perhaps evil?  I would propose that answer may be fear.  Fear of want, or loss of control, or helplessness in the face of an uncertain future, etc.  The powers that be (PTB) thrive on fear, yours, and mine, their own...  It is well documented that a state of fear propels us to a lower state of thinking and being, and a lower vibration level if you&#039;re into the whole new age thing...  Your points are well taken about fear &quot;manufactured&quot; by the PTB.  But please keep in mind that these states of affairs were designed to keep us in a state of helplessness and fear.  They offered no realistic hope for self-determination, and required our collective acceptance of &quot;their&quot; solutions, which usually involve more and different forms of fear.  Case in point the perpetual and never-ending war on terrorism...  We cannot change the world as we currently know it all at once, any more than we can change human nature,,, but we can change how we interact in this world, albeit one relationship at a time, conveying love and acceptance and a healthy mix of hope combined with preparation, (spiritual and physical).  For those who are religious, I don&#039;t believe God instructed Noah to do what he did because He felt that Noah could survive on positive thoughts alone.  Was God fear-mongering with Noah???  Nor do I think that Christ&#039;s statement that man cannot live on bread alone implied no bread at all.  And how many times does humanity need to suffer at the hands of wicked central governments, (from ancient Rome to present), before they wake up to take their God-given power back and do what they instinctively need to do rather than what they&#039;re told to do?  There is a famous quote by a holocaust survivor who said that if only a few of them had offered resistance when the SS kicked down their doors in the middle of the night, how much that could have made them think twice about kicking down the next door...  Let me just point out my definition of the difference between fear-mongering and what I&#039;d like to believe this website and many like it are doing; which is asking folks to have the courage to face the hard and uncomfortable truths, and to become &quot;empowered&quot; and help others in that regard through thoughtfulness and preparation.  The alternative is to live in &quot;fear&quot; of a potentially ugly future, followed by living in &quot;fear&quot; when caught unprepared tomorrow.  I hate to say it, but fear breeds evil, even by ordinarily law abiding and otherwise God-fearing folks - history tells that story very well.  If storing food and buying &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; proves futile and all is lost anyway, at least you&#039;ve done something for yourself and others to take back your power and gave yourself an opportunity to avoid fear through preparedness leading up to that eventuality...  I, for one, will rest assured that I did what I could and hopefully my soul will carry on without the burden of regrets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christina, you make an important point about being consumed by negativity.  I would like to pose this question to you: What is the root of negativity, and perhaps evil?  I would propose that answer may be fear.  Fear of want, or loss of control, or helplessness in the face of an uncertain future, etc.  The powers that be (PTB) thrive on fear, yours, and mine, their own&#8230;  It is well documented that a state of fear propels us to a lower state of thinking and being, and a lower vibration level if you&#8217;re into the whole new age thing&#8230;  Your points are well taken about fear &#8220;manufactured&#8221; by the PTB.  But please keep in mind that these states of affairs were designed to keep us in a state of helplessness and fear.  They offered no realistic hope for self-determination, and required our collective acceptance of &#8220;their&#8221; solutions, which usually involve more and different forms of fear.  Case in point the perpetual and never-ending war on terrorism&#8230;  We cannot change the world as we currently know it all at once, any more than we can change human nature,,, but we can change how we interact in this world, albeit one relationship at a time, conveying love and acceptance and a healthy mix of hope combined with preparation, (spiritual and physical).  For those who are religious, I don&#8217;t believe God instructed Noah to do what he did because He felt that Noah could survive on positive thoughts alone.  Was God fear-mongering with Noah???  Nor do I think that Christ&#8217;s statement that man cannot live on bread alone implied no bread at all.  And how many times does humanity need to suffer at the hands of wicked central governments, (from ancient Rome to present), before they wake up to take their God-given power back and do what they instinctively need to do rather than what they&#8217;re told to do?  There is a famous quote by a holocaust survivor who said that if only a few of them had offered resistance when the SS kicked down their doors in the middle of the night, how much that could have made them think twice about kicking down the next door&#8230;  Let me just point out my definition of the difference between fear-mongering and what I&#8217;d like to believe this website and many like it are doing; which is asking folks to have the courage to face the hard and uncomfortable truths, and to become &#8220;empowered&#8221; and help others in that regard through thoughtfulness and preparation.  The alternative is to live in &#8220;fear&#8221; of a potentially ugly future, followed by living in &#8220;fear&#8221; when caught unprepared tomorrow.  I hate to say it, but fear breeds evil, even by ordinarily law abiding and otherwise God-fearing folks &#8211; history tells that story very well.  If storing food and buying <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> proves futile and all is lost anyway, at least you&#8217;ve done something for yourself and others to take back your power and gave yourself an opportunity to avoid fear through preparedness leading up to that eventuality&#8230;  I, for one, will rest assured that I did what I could and hopefully my soul will carry on without the burden of regrets&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Angelina</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 02:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mary Kay...In response, I&#039;ll stick with your Nazi/Jew analogy.  If you think the &quot;Jews in Germany who didn&#039;t read the signs&quot; could have been saved by some fruit trees, some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt;, guns and a bible, you are seriously naive.  You can fence your property, put up razor wire, and start stockpiling all the food and weapons you want, but it wouldn&#039;t have protected Jews against Nazis, and it won&#039;t save your either.  The Jews that were saved were the ones who got out of that country, and any other country ripe to be invaded.  If you are this paranoid, you should get out of America, the big target for the conspiracy takeover, and go to some little remote corner of the earth that nobody wants anything from. Your tactics are primitive and ineffectual against anything but a natural disaster like flood or fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mary Kay&#8230;In response, I&#8217;ll stick with your Nazi/Jew analogy.  If you think the &#8220;Jews in Germany who didn&#8217;t read the signs&#8221; could have been saved by some fruit trees, some <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a>, guns and a bible, you are seriously naive.  You can fence your property, put up razor wire, and start stockpiling all the food and weapons you want, but it wouldn&#8217;t have protected Jews against Nazis, and it won&#8217;t save your either.  The Jews that were saved were the ones who got out of that country, and any other country ripe to be invaded.  If you are this paranoid, you should get out of America, the big target for the conspiracy takeover, and go to some little remote corner of the earth that nobody wants anything from. Your tactics are primitive and ineffectual against anything but a natural disaster like flood or fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-1549</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning Christina Angelina&#039;s post: The Jews in Germany DIDN&#039;T READ THE SIGNS and they were gassed. They didn&#039;t think that man was capable of such evil, but they were wrong and it cost them their lives. They trusted the Nazi&#039;s then the Nazi&#039;s trapped them like rats. 
Let me ask you Christina has mankind suddenly  changed? Has greed and hunger for power disappeared? 
When I look around all I see is mankind getting worse, sin is rampant in our society in America. 
I think you are being spoon fed by the media talking heads who love their fame and riches and would sell their country for it. 
You need to do your homework on the Federal Reserve bankers and learn what money is and what it isn&#039;t. Federal reserve notes are merely I.O.U.&#039;s and not money. Only gold and silver is true money. When the crash comes and it will soon you will weep bitter tears, knowing that you were warned and didn&#039;t prepare for your family. But it will be too late. You will then be at the mercy of this fascist government. 
Have you noticed Greece, Spain, Italy, Iceland, the UK, Latvia, Estonia, Ireland and more have all tanked and the people are rioting? We are not far behind, the reason we haven&#039;t tanked yet is because the Federal Reserve bank KEEPS PRINTING MONEY!!  This will cause hyper-inflation of the dollar and that means higher prices for everything. 
We are 119 trillion, $119,000,000,000,000.00, in debt. I would love to know how you think we can ever recover from that. I suggest you check out youtube and listen to the experts, Peter Schiff, Geraold Celente and Max Kaiser. They will make a believer out of you. 
There&#039;s little time left so you better get moving.... or get use to being hungry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning Christina Angelina&#8217;s post: The Jews in Germany DIDN&#8217;T READ THE SIGNS and they were gassed. They didn&#8217;t think that man was capable of such evil, but they were wrong and it cost them their lives. They trusted the Nazi&#8217;s then the Nazi&#8217;s trapped them like rats.<br />
Let me ask you Christina has mankind suddenly  changed? Has greed and hunger for power disappeared?<br />
When I look around all I see is mankind getting worse, sin is rampant in our society in America.<br />
I think you are being spoon fed by the media talking heads who love their fame and riches and would sell their country for it.<br />
You need to do your homework on the Federal Reserve bankers and learn what money is and what it isn&#8217;t. Federal reserve notes are merely I.O.U.&#8217;s and not money. Only gold and silver is true money. When the crash comes and it will soon you will weep bitter tears, knowing that you were warned and didn&#8217;t prepare for your family. But it will be too late. You will then be at the mercy of this fascist government.<br />
Have you noticed Greece, Spain, Italy, Iceland, the UK, Latvia, Estonia, Ireland and more have all tanked and the people are rioting? We are not far behind, the reason we haven&#8217;t tanked yet is because the Federal Reserve bank KEEPS PRINTING MONEY!!  This will cause hyper-inflation of the dollar and that means higher prices for everything.<br />
We are 119 trillion, $119,000,000,000,000.00, in debt. I would love to know how you think we can ever recover from that. I suggest you check out youtube and listen to the experts, Peter Schiff, Geraold Celente and Max Kaiser. They will make a believer out of you.<br />
There&#8217;s little time left so you better get moving&#8230;. or get use to being hungry.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christina Angelina Thanks for your comment! I agree with you for the most part. However, I do not believe ignoring the problem will make it go away (no more than ignoring a cancerous tumor will make that go away). And I DO believe in focusing on the light or positivity because we are what we focus on.

There is no harm in knowing things are degenerating on a worldwide scale and then &quot;taking out a little insurance&quot; (i.e. getting prepared with food and supplies and precious metals to protect your wealth)

We have this moment but we also determine our future by our present actions. We can greatly impact our personal future by our actions today. I recommend, as you know, having &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; or gold hidden away, storeable foodstuff (enough for at least a year), supplies that you use to help you subsist when things get shakey which, indeed they will.

Stay positive as you say and make this life a meaningful one! 

Thanks again for your comment :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Christina Angelina Thanks for your comment! I agree with you for the most part. However, I do not believe ignoring the problem will make it go away (no more than ignoring a cancerous tumor will make that go away). And I DO believe in focusing on the light or positivity because we are what we focus on.</p>
<p>There is no harm in knowing things are degenerating on a worldwide scale and then &#8220;taking out a little insurance&#8221; (i.e. getting prepared with food and supplies and precious metals to protect your wealth)</p>
<p>We have this moment but we also determine our future by our present actions. We can greatly impact our personal future by our actions today. I recommend, as you know, having <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> or gold hidden away, storeable foodstuff (enough for at least a year), supplies that you use to help you subsist when things get shakey which, indeed they will.</p>
<p>Stay positive as you say and make this life a meaningful one! </p>
<p>Thanks again for your comment <img src='http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Christina Angelina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Angelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the internet and conspiracy theories, and such...if you can do it IGNORE IT!  ANYONE who wants power over our thoughts, tries to use fear to control us.  If you are afraid, the dark side wins.  When I was in elementary school in the early 1960&#039;s, they used to tell us that the communists might attack us at any moment.  We had air raid sirens go off every Friday as a test, so we would be ready to go to a shelter that was marked with a scary circular symbol of yellow and black triangles, or into one of the many neighborhood home made bomb shelter some paranoid citizens created.  We had to practice in school getting under our desks and covering our heads for when the attack came.  We were taught to fear that communists were lurking in our communities gathering information.  We honestly believed we would be bombed.  How is this a way for a child to grow up?  Can you imagine if they had had the internet back then, how much more they would have spread the terror? And of course, it never happened.  What happened was that their regime failed, and it was the Soviet citizens who suffered the most, and their economy was such a shambles that they could barely provide the essentials to their own people, let alone have the will and resources to attack us.  What did our worry get us?  It was a waste of our precious moments.  Then we were made to be afraid that if we didn&#039;t go into Vietnam, the communists would take over all of Asia, and eventually the world.  Of course, we lost that war, and it didn&#039;t even happen then.  Even China is starting little by little to become more democratic.  The same thing repeated itself after 9/11.  Even though no hijackers were from Iraq, and even though we had many UN weapons inspectors in their country monitoring them, we were made to believe, through fear and intimidation,..(ie. If you are not with us on this, you are not a true patriot.) that they had horrible weapons of mass destruction, which they might unleash on us at any moment.  Sadaam may have been an evil dictator, but no Iraqis asked us to save them, nor invade their country and in the process destroy their police force, their infrastructure, their amazing cultural heritage of antiquities and architecture, and their own security in an unstable region. What did it get us?  Loss of life, horrible disabilities, both of our economies destroyed etc. etc. 
     So take care of your own...and leave the weirdness of the world, and politics and the dark side to people who want to live in that realm. Many of us are by nature truth seekers, and a little rebellious, and we want to understand...We want to feel like we have some control in all of the chaos.  The best thing to do is project positivity, kindness, and love.  If you live for destruction, and look for evil, you will certainly find it.  Try looking for good in the world, try looking at the light and finding some internal peace, not seeking out the darkness. We only have a precious moment...what are you going to do with your moment?  focus on evil and darkness? Your life is a dash 19?? - 20??.  What are you going to do with your dash?  Live in fear, and prepare for evil?  I want my dash to sew seeds of love. I want to be part of the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the internet and conspiracy theories, and such&#8230;if you can do it IGNORE IT!  ANYONE who wants power over our thoughts, tries to use fear to control us.  If you are afraid, the dark side wins.  When I was in elementary school in the early 1960&#8242;s, they used to tell us that the communists might attack us at any moment.  We had air raid sirens go off every Friday as a test, so we would be ready to go to a shelter that was marked with a scary circular symbol of yellow and black triangles, or into one of the many neighborhood home made bomb shelter some paranoid citizens created.  We had to practice in school getting under our desks and covering our heads for when the attack came.  We were taught to fear that communists were lurking in our communities gathering information.  We honestly believed we would be bombed.  How is this a way for a child to grow up?  Can you imagine if they had had the internet back then, how much more they would have spread the terror? And of course, it never happened.  What happened was that their regime failed, and it was the Soviet citizens who suffered the most, and their economy was such a shambles that they could barely provide the essentials to their own people, let alone have the will and resources to attack us.  What did our worry get us?  It was a waste of our precious moments.  Then we were made to be afraid that if we didn&#8217;t go into Vietnam, the communists would take over all of Asia, and eventually the world.  Of course, we lost that war, and it didn&#8217;t even happen then.  Even China is starting little by little to become more democratic.  The same thing repeated itself after 9/11.  Even though no hijackers were from Iraq, and even though we had many UN weapons inspectors in their country monitoring them, we were made to believe, through fear and intimidation,..(ie. If you are not with us on this, you are not a true patriot.) that they had horrible weapons of mass destruction, which they might unleash on us at any moment.  Sadaam may have been an evil dictator, but no Iraqis asked us to save them, nor invade their country and in the process destroy their police force, their infrastructure, their amazing cultural heritage of antiquities and architecture, and their own security in an unstable region. What did it get us?  Loss of life, horrible disabilities, both of our economies destroyed etc. etc.<br />
     So take care of your own&#8230;and leave the weirdness of the world, and politics and the dark side to people who want to live in that realm. Many of us are by nature truth seekers, and a little rebellious, and we want to understand&#8230;We want to feel like we have some control in all of the chaos.  The best thing to do is project positivity, kindness, and love.  If you live for destruction, and look for evil, you will certainly find it.  Try looking for good in the world, try looking at the light and finding some internal peace, not seeking out the darkness. We only have a precious moment&#8230;what are you going to do with your moment?  focus on evil and darkness? Your life is a dash 19?? &#8211; 20??.  What are you going to do with your dash?  Live in fear, and prepare for evil?  I want my dash to sew seeds of love. I want to be part of the light.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Billy Bob Thorton - while I appreciate your comment, it is not fear mongering. I&#039;m not saying the worl will end but I am saying there are going to be massive changes ahead. Bigger than we&#039;ve ever seen on a global scale before. Think about it. Do you know why world wars happen before a collapse? Because an elite few choose it to happen. It is called a power grab. Do you want to be reliant on them via the state for all your necessities when it all goes down? If not, then maybe thinking about getting some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silver&lt;/a&gt; and storable food stuff isn&#039;t such a bad plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Billy Bob Thorton &#8211; while I appreciate your comment, it is not fear mongering. I&#8217;m not saying the worl will end but I am saying there are going to be massive changes ahead. Bigger than we&#8217;ve ever seen on a global scale before. Think about it. Do you know why world wars happen before a collapse? Because an elite few choose it to happen. It is called a power grab. Do you want to be reliant on them via the state for all your necessities when it all goes down? If not, then maybe thinking about getting some <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">silver</a> and storable food stuff isn&#8217;t such a bad plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Bob Thorton</title>
		<link>http://www.economiccollapsesurvival.com/economic-collapse-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-1530</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Bob Thorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god the world is gonna end!!!!!! What do i do? Arghh!!! This will never happen, World wars will happen before a sudden collapse out of nowhere. I feel sorry for all you fear mongering rednecks. &quot;Better Buy some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silver&lt;/a&gt;&quot; Im just gonna shoot myself.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god the world is gonna end!!!!!! What do i do? Arghh!!! This will never happen, World wars will happen before a sudden collapse out of nowhere. I feel sorry for all you fear mongering rednecks. &#8220;Better Buy some <a href="http://www.dpbolvw.net/click-5174093-10807052" rel="nofollow">Silver</a>&#8221; Im just gonna shoot myself&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All mostly true, but the economic collapse could be avoided, if governments took advantage of electronic banking, and sent several hundred dollars each week to the bank accounts of most people.
This money/credit can be in the form of low interest loans at say one per cent interest.
The money would come from treasury, not from private banks, and therefore would not need to be repaid to private banks.

The banks would not be too happy but they would still get
Payments every time someone withdrew money from their accounts.

Abe lincoln paid for his side of the civil war - straight from treasury, after the banks told him that they wanted extortionist interest on any credit they loaned him.

Instead of heading into a disastrous economic depression, we would have a new era of prosperity.

People with money in their bank accounts spend that money and their spending boosts economies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All mostly true, but the economic collapse could be avoided, if governments took advantage of electronic banking, and sent several hundred dollars each week to the bank accounts of most people.<br />
This money/credit can be in the form of low interest loans at say one per cent interest.<br />
The money would come from treasury, not from private banks, and therefore would not need to be repaid to private banks.</p>
<p>The banks would not be too happy but they would still get<br />
Payments every time someone withdrew money from their accounts.</p>
<p>Abe lincoln paid for his side of the civil war &#8211; straight from treasury, after the banks told him that they wanted extortionist interest on any credit they loaned him.</p>
<p>Instead of heading into a disastrous economic depression, we would have a new era of prosperity.</p>
<p>People with money in their bank accounts spend that money and their spending boosts economies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you all on the right track...I felt the need to do this for my own family and then felt God wanted me to reach out to others...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you all on the right track&#8230;I felt the need to do this for my own family and then felt God wanted me to reach out to others&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: William McNorris</title>
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		<dc:creator>William McNorris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 02:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do all of you &quot;survival experts&quot; really think that if everything collapses, storing a little food and ammo will really save you? We&#039;re talking about millions and millions of crazed and hungry people. &quot;Well I moved to a smaller town&quot;. Then it had better be Really small. I you live in a town of a hundred people and only 5 have supplies, it&#039;s going to be a long week at their house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do all of you &#8220;survival experts&#8221; really think that if everything collapses, storing a little food and ammo will really save you? We&#8217;re talking about millions and millions of crazed and hungry people. &#8220;Well I moved to a smaller town&#8221;. Then it had better be Really small. I you live in a town of a hundred people and only 5 have supplies, it&#8217;s going to be a long week at their house.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 19:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. I have paid off my house &amp; car &amp; owe no one anything. I have food for 2 years, a large garden which I have learned to tend over the past 3 yrs. 7 fruit trees, blueberry bushes fruit vines, etc.. and enough silver to be comfortable in the coming collapse. My paychecks are converted into silver now as the time of the collapse is near. Perhaps October will once again be the time of a stock market crash. 
Israeli&#039;s about to attack Iran and the US will throw more federal reserve notes into that making the bankers richer. War is their delight.
The BP oil disaster,hmmm, a false flag? I don&#039;t know but I do know that the benzine, methane and other poisons, and dispersants, are going to destroy the coast, people will die and the cost will be worse than Katrina. 
A major quake may occur in Ca., HAARP has a plan, not sure what. 
And yes, an attack. From Iran? Russia? is going to happen sooner or later, perhaps an EMP. That&#039;s why I have planned for zero electricity, wood stove, firewood, solar oven, blankets, etc.. 
If the avian flu hits during all this Americans may lose hope if they fail to prepare for diseases. 
And who knows what they will use the tons of chemtrails they&#039;ve been spraying in our skies for. I can only imagine. 
NIA just put out a newsletter on the increase price of wheat, up some approx. 70% I think from 3 mos. ago.
Ready to deal with whatever the Evil One brings, clinging to my Bible and guns,....in that order. 
MK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. I have paid off my house &amp; car &amp; owe no one anything. I have food for 2 years, a large garden which I have learned to tend over the past 3 yrs. 7 fruit trees, blueberry bushes fruit vines, etc.. and enough silver to be comfortable in the coming collapse. My paychecks are converted into silver now as the time of the collapse is near. Perhaps October will once again be the time of a stock market crash.<br />
Israeli&#8217;s about to attack Iran and the US will throw more federal reserve notes into that making the bankers richer. War is their delight.<br />
The BP oil disaster,hmmm, a false flag? I don&#8217;t know but I do know that the benzine, methane and other poisons, and dispersants, are going to destroy the coast, people will die and the cost will be worse than Katrina.<br />
A major quake may occur in Ca., HAARP has a plan, not sure what.<br />
And yes, an attack. From Iran? Russia? is going to happen sooner or later, perhaps an EMP. That&#8217;s why I have planned for zero electricity, wood stove, firewood, solar oven, blankets, etc..<br />
If the avian flu hits during all this Americans may lose hope if they fail to prepare for diseases.<br />
And who knows what they will use the tons of chemtrails they&#8217;ve been spraying in our skies for. I can only imagine.<br />
NIA just put out a newsletter on the increase price of wheat, up some approx. 70% I think from 3 mos. ago.<br />
Ready to deal with whatever the Evil One brings, clinging to my Bible and guns,&#8230;.in that order.<br />
MK</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@james bond that is a frickin AWESOME comment. Thank you! 

I actually don&#039;t believe outside invaders is your/our (I&#039;m Canadian) biggest concern and I&#039;ll tell you why.

What I&#039;m about to say is simply a fact - it does not reside in the realm of conspiracy theory anymore - nor did it ever. It is conspiracy fact:

There is a global elite group that is in control of all the banks, all the money, all the world. We did not elect them, we do not know about them (most don&#039;t), yet we have chosen them by default. We chose and continue to choose them every day we do not wake up and kick them out of power.

These handful of sick criminals decide policy, what we see on television, they create the &#039;normal&#039; paradigm, who invades who, the printing of money (inflation) and interest rates, the fluoride in the water, and MUCH MUCH more.

Here is the deal. America, as controlled by these insane, power hungry, arrogant, eugenicist, dirtbags, is about to bomb Iran (probably with the help of Isreal and a handful of other commonwealth countries). And yes, there is a big chance they will bomb America back. And I am talking nukes, although there is no way for me to know for sure. I suspect as much.

So in a manner of speaking, outside invaders will disrupt our lives big time. And what the ef to do in terms of economic survival?

Well, fortunately, there is still time to do something about that. As I&#039;m learning, it is not a cure-all but it is the BEST thing we can do right now and it is to buy cheap silver and gold. 

What this will do for us, in essence, is keep us out of the bread lines and government controlled food banks (the doll if you will). The LESS reliant we are on the government, the less in control of us they are!

And in addition to having some money (silver/gold) during these REALLY messed up times that are coming, it is REALLY REALLY wise to have your own food period. That means stocking up and having a store of nonperishables, knowing how to grow a garden or hunt or SOME WAY of subsisting without government assistance and you WILL see what I mean as time progresses and we move deeper into this recession and deeper into global banker control.

You know the mad max movies? Well it won&#039;t be exactly like that but prepare as if it were.

I can&#039;t say for sure how all the details will play out but I do know that silver is going through the roof (I will stick my neck out and say at least $1500/ounce). I can&#039;t tell you what to do or advise you with any authority... or at ALL for that matter but I can see the writing on the wall. Can you?

The writing, as I see it, says, &quot;Dollars will continue to be printed until there is SO much paper money it becomes worthless; gold and silver, as an economic fundamental, will correct for this paper tornado, and go through the roof in price; wars are about to erupt; the economy is about to fail pretty much completely; grocery stores will not serve us anymore because the economy will not sustain them; a global currency is about to be instituted by the elite bankers who want a one-world-government; many people are going to be left with nothing and thus submit to the doll (watch the movie &quot;camp FEMA&quot;); almost everyone is going to default on their mortgages (that is why it is GOOD to sell right now in my opinion); the global elite bankers are going to buy up or by default, own all the cheap real estate (so buy some with your precious metals when the time comes); the global elite banker group will gain almost complete control of the world in this manner - by buying it up once the world is awash in paper money and no one can afford the price of energy/transportation/food/living any more; the world will not look the same any more.&quot;

Your question was, what if foreign invaders come in. My answer is, it not like that. It is a game of risk played by a handful of sick individuals. We are not separated by borders - borders are the illusion. If a bomb comes from Iran it is because the elite bankers have used America to instigate aggression or revenge or whatever.

But whatever the case, America will not look the same as I have said and precious metals will STILL be the only money you can rely on.

I hope I have answered your question. It is not a perfect answer because I don&#039;t know all the answers. But I can see the writing on the wall and it says; buy precious metals, stock up on food, learn how to protect yourself and your family; get ready for war; be ready when the electrical grid goes down (it is very fragile); be ready.

It is a grave message. And I also say, once you awoken, please help others to wake up too so that they may not be destitute. So that they may stand up in revolt of the bankers. We need to wake up fully to what is really going on beFORE we can fight it. You can&#039;t fight what you don&#039;t see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@james bond that is a frickin AWESOME comment. Thank you! </p>
<p>I actually don&#8217;t believe outside invaders is your/our (I&#8217;m Canadian) biggest concern and I&#8217;ll tell you why.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m about to say is simply a fact &#8211; it does not reside in the realm of conspiracy theory anymore &#8211; nor did it ever. It is conspiracy fact:</p>
<p>There is a global elite group that is in control of all the banks, all the money, all the world. We did not elect them, we do not know about them (most don&#8217;t), yet we have chosen them by default. We chose and continue to choose them every day we do not wake up and kick them out of power.</p>
<p>These handful of sick criminals decide policy, what we see on television, they create the &#8216;normal&#8217; paradigm, who invades who, the printing of money (inflation) and interest rates, the fluoride in the water, and MUCH MUCH more.</p>
<p>Here is the deal. America, as controlled by these insane, power hungry, arrogant, eugenicist, dirtbags, is about to bomb Iran (probably with the help of Isreal and a handful of other commonwealth countries). And yes, there is a big chance they will bomb America back. And I am talking nukes, although there is no way for me to know for sure. I suspect as much.</p>
<p>So in a manner of speaking, outside invaders will disrupt our lives big time. And what the ef to do in terms of economic survival?</p>
<p>Well, fortunately, there is still time to do something about that. As I&#8217;m learning, it is not a cure-all but it is the BEST thing we can do right now and it is to buy cheap silver and gold. </p>
<p>What this will do for us, in essence, is keep us out of the bread lines and government controlled food banks (the doll if you will). The LESS reliant we are on the government, the less in control of us they are!</p>
<p>And in addition to having some money (silver/gold) during these REALLY messed up times that are coming, it is REALLY REALLY wise to have your own food period. That means stocking up and having a store of nonperishables, knowing how to grow a garden or hunt or SOME WAY of subsisting without government assistance and you WILL see what I mean as time progresses and we move deeper into this recession and deeper into global banker control.</p>
<p>You know the mad max movies? Well it won&#8217;t be exactly like that but prepare as if it were.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say for sure how all the details will play out but I do know that silver is going through the roof (I will stick my neck out and say at least $1500/ounce). I can&#8217;t tell you what to do or advise you with any authority&#8230; or at ALL for that matter but I can see the writing on the wall. Can you?</p>
<p>The writing, as I see it, says, &#8220;Dollars will continue to be printed until there is SO much paper money it becomes worthless; gold and silver, as an economic fundamental, will correct for this paper tornado, and go through the roof in price; wars are about to erupt; the economy is about to fail pretty much completely; grocery stores will not serve us anymore because the economy will not sustain them; a global currency is about to be instituted by the elite bankers who want a one-world-government; many people are going to be left with nothing and thus submit to the doll (watch the movie &#8220;camp FEMA&#8221;); almost everyone is going to default on their mortgages (that is why it is GOOD to sell right now in my opinion); the global elite bankers are going to buy up or by default, own all the cheap real estate (so buy some with your precious metals when the time comes); the global elite banker group will gain almost complete control of the world in this manner &#8211; by buying it up once the world is awash in paper money and no one can afford the price of energy/transportation/food/living any more; the world will not look the same any more.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your question was, what if foreign invaders come in. My answer is, it not like that. It is a game of risk played by a handful of sick individuals. We are not separated by borders &#8211; borders are the illusion. If a bomb comes from Iran it is because the elite bankers have used America to instigate aggression or revenge or whatever.</p>
<p>But whatever the case, America will not look the same as I have said and precious metals will STILL be the only money you can rely on.</p>
<p>I hope I have answered your question. It is not a perfect answer because I don&#8217;t know all the answers. But I can see the writing on the wall and it says; buy precious metals, stock up on food, learn how to protect yourself and your family; get ready for war; be ready when the electrical grid goes down (it is very fragile); be ready.</p>
<p>It is a grave message. And I also say, once you awoken, please help others to wake up too so that they may not be destitute. So that they may stand up in revolt of the bankers. We need to wake up fully to what is really going on beFORE we can fight it. You can&#8217;t fight what you don&#8217;t see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not concerned about outsiders invading because in my opinion they already have. They are the central bankers headed by the Federal Reserve bank forming a fascist US government with the puppets in the Congress and the Obama regime enforcing their plan for a one world government. They are the true rulers of the world. For proof just look at all the 23 trillion Obama handed the bankers. As we can all plainly see they are destroying the economies of the world. With the Bilderberg group controlling the media and a Bilderberg member owning Monsanto, controlling the food supply we&#039;re in checkmate. The fascists now control the credit/interests through the banks, the housing market, Freddie and Fannie, the auto industry, healthcare and the military.  
Those who are foolish and fail to prepare will be at the mercy of this fascist government.

MK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not concerned about outsiders invading because in my opinion they already have. They are the central bankers headed by the Federal Reserve bank forming a fascist US government with the puppets in the Congress and the Obama regime enforcing their plan for a one world government. They are the true rulers of the world. For proof just look at all the 23 trillion Obama handed the bankers. As we can all plainly see they are destroying the economies of the world. With the Bilderberg group controlling the media and a Bilderberg member owning Monsanto, controlling the food supply we&#8217;re in checkmate. The fascists now control the credit/interests through the banks, the housing market, Freddie and Fannie, the auto industry, healthcare and the military.<br />
Those who are foolish and fail to prepare will be at the mercy of this fascist government.</p>
<p>MK</p>
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		<title>By: james bond</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 15:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have many good points.  The only thing I keep thinking about is, when we do have collapse I believe another major power will at one point try to take advantage(invade).  Then, with all of the trying to store/get food for survival and the country is a  mess, what do we do about invaders outside our country  We will be more concerned with trying to get food/water for survival.  What do you all think about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have many good points.  The only thing I keep thinking about is, when we do have collapse I believe another major power will at one point try to take advantage(invade).  Then, with all of the trying to store/get food for survival and the country is a  mess, what do we do about invaders outside our country  We will be more concerned with trying to get food/water for survival.  What do you all think about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 04:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to respond to the person who quoted the scripture verse on men throwing their silver into the streets in the time of God&#039;s wrath. I believe in that scripture whole- heartedly. I&#039;ve been a Christian for 34 years and a missionary so I do know a thing or two about the  Bible. The Bible is saying that men in the last days will accumulate precious metals, probably because currencies will be worthless.
However what this person has failed to question is WHEN is God&#039;s wrath? The Book of Revelation states clearly that God&#039;s wrath comes at the opening of the seventh seal. This is approx. the last six months of the tribulation period, about 7 years from now. 
In the mean time, as one who wants to follow God&#039;s given knowledge of the prophecies, I like Noah am preparing and that means doing your homework and opening you eyes to the coming time of suffering and preparing accordingly with food, water and silver. 
It is most unfortunate that most Christians foolishly believe in a pre-tribulation rapture where believers think they will be whisked away to heaven before the tribulation begins and therefore have no need to prepare. Satan has deceived the church with this lie to leave them unprepared and DEPENDANT ON THE GOVERNMENT, Satan&#039;s government. 
The scriptures are clear, that Christ&#039;s resurrection of the saints, the rapture, will come at the last trumpet, {1 Corn.15,} which comes at the opening of the seventh seal. 2 Thess. tells us that before the rapture the &quot;Son of Perdition&quot;, the anti-christ, will set himself in the Jewish temple claiming the be God. This is 3 1/2 years into the tribulation. 
 I urge that person to reconsider the timing of God&#039;s wrath and then surf the web for a silver company, while prices are still dirt cheap. I like APMEX.
MK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to respond to the person who quoted the scripture verse on men throwing their silver into the streets in the time of God&#8217;s wrath. I believe in that scripture whole- heartedly. I&#8217;ve been a Christian for 34 years and a missionary so I do know a thing or two about the  Bible. The Bible is saying that men in the last days will accumulate precious metals, probably because currencies will be worthless.<br />
However what this person has failed to question is WHEN is God&#8217;s wrath? The Book of Revelation states clearly that God&#8217;s wrath comes at the opening of the seventh seal. This is approx. the last six months of the tribulation period, about 7 years from now.<br />
In the mean time, as one who wants to follow God&#8217;s given knowledge of the prophecies, I like Noah am preparing and that means doing your homework and opening you eyes to the coming time of suffering and preparing accordingly with food, water and silver.<br />
It is most unfortunate that most Christians foolishly believe in a pre-tribulation rapture where believers think they will be whisked away to heaven before the tribulation begins and therefore have no need to prepare. Satan has deceived the church with this lie to leave them unprepared and DEPENDANT ON THE GOVERNMENT, Satan&#8217;s government.<br />
The scriptures are clear, that Christ&#8217;s resurrection of the saints, the rapture, will come at the last trumpet, {1 Corn.15,} which comes at the opening of the seventh seal. 2 Thess. tells us that before the rapture the &#8220;Son of Perdition&#8221;, the anti-christ, will set himself in the Jewish temple claiming the be God. This is 3 1/2 years into the tribulation.<br />
 I urge that person to reconsider the timing of God&#8217;s wrath and then surf the web for a silver company, while prices are still dirt cheap. I like APMEX.<br />
MK</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 20:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gold and Silver

Unfortunately you are misguided in your assumptions about me and my purpose with regards to gold and silver. Sure it is exciting to think about wealth but like a blanket that can keep you warm, so can gold and silver be exchanged for things of value. 

And if you play your cards right, you can use precious metals to purchase big things like land and build safety bunkers and buy ammunition and so on - all for the purpose of creating a safety net, insurance if you will, for family and close friends. 

It is a tool and only a tool and thusly, it is a means to an end.

As is so common, we just drink our fluoridated water and put blind trust in the establishment - be that society, the government or religion.

You are going to put ALL your faith and trust into one sentence in a book that has been revised, redone, republished, omitted-from and added-to by mortal, fallible man over the course of 2000 years and risk the safety of yourself, and your loved ones?

I say this with utmost compassion and necessity, please wise up my friend - in my humble opinion, your safety depends upon it.

I am sorry if it feels like I am coming down hard on you but we, collectively, as people of earth need to wake up and do more.

I welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can do this together...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gold and Silver</p>
<p>Unfortunately you are misguided in your assumptions about me and my purpose with regards to gold and silver. Sure it is exciting to think about wealth but like a blanket that can keep you warm, so can gold and silver be exchanged for things of value. </p>
<p>And if you play your cards right, you can use precious metals to purchase big things like land and build safety bunkers and buy ammunition and so on &#8211; all for the purpose of creating a safety net, insurance if you will, for family and close friends. </p>
<p>It is a tool and only a tool and thusly, it is a means to an end.</p>
<p>As is so common, we just drink our fluoridated water and put blind trust in the establishment &#8211; be that society, the government or religion.</p>
<p>You are going to put ALL your faith and trust into one sentence in a book that has been revised, redone, republished, omitted-from and added-to by mortal, fallible man over the course of 2000 years and risk the safety of yourself, and your loved ones?</p>
<p>I say this with utmost compassion and necessity, please wise up my friend &#8211; in my humble opinion, your safety depends upon it.</p>
<p>I am sorry if it feels like I am coming down hard on you but we, collectively, as people of earth need to wake up and do more.</p>
<p>I welcome your comments and suggestions about how we can do this together&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gold and Silver</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 20:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“…you’ll want silver for example... paper currency will become worthless – and while it is becoming worthless, silver will be shooting to the moon.”

“I recommend getting silver and gold…and then sell when everybody and their dog know all about gold and silver and there are line ups outside the coin shops (hint: sell when EVERYBODY is buying..”

“There is absolutely no better feeling once you have begun the process of owning your very own physical SILVER that you can touch and hold.“

“Buying bullion like silver and gold in order to protect your own wealth is very wise. This should always be the case in economic survival scenarios where there is a crisis in the economy.”


Might read what God himself had to say about your gold and silver.

Ezekiel 7:18-21 
“They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…you’ll want silver for example&#8230; paper currency will become worthless – and while it is becoming worthless, silver will be shooting to the moon.”</p>
<p>“I recommend getting silver and gold…and then sell when everybody and their dog know all about gold and silver and there are line ups outside the coin shops (hint: sell when EVERYBODY is buying..”</p>
<p>“There is absolutely no better feeling once you have begun the process of owning your very own physical SILVER that you can touch and hold.“</p>
<p>“Buying bullion like silver and gold in order to protect your own wealth is very wise. This should always be the case in economic survival scenarios where there is a crisis in the economy.”</p>
<p>Might read what God himself had to say about your gold and silver.</p>
<p>Ezekiel 7:18-21<br />
“They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.”</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kay</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you need a bigger gun! 
Could even Bruce Lee fend off a mob? 
Bigger gun, bigger dog. 
&#039;nuff said.
MK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you need a bigger gun!<br />
Could even Bruce Lee fend off a mob?<br />
Bigger gun, bigger dog.<br />
&#8217;nuff said.<br />
MK</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes @Wolfman but there is something you are not seeing. IN ADDITION to things you can use on hand, you&#039;ll want silver for example. And the reason is, paper currency will become worthless - and while it is becoming worthless, silver will be shooting to the moon. I am going to be using my earnings to buy land. That is my end game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes @Wolfman but there is something you are not seeing. IN ADDITION to things you can use on hand, you&#8217;ll want silver for example. And the reason is, paper currency will become worthless &#8211; and while it is becoming worthless, silver will be shooting to the moon. I am going to be using my earnings to buy land. That is my end game.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be kinda hard to eat gold and silver if it gets that bad.  Have food,water,gas and propane and stuff you can use on hand</description>
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